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BUG: Mountain Lion kills wifi speed when using airplay or time capsule

Hi,

Here is the situation, I have a MBP 3,1 Core 2 Duo 2,4Ghz.

I've upgraded from 10.7 to 10.8, and now, when I'm trying to use time machine on my time capsule (last gen), or airplay on my airport express (802.11n) the transmission speed drops from 160/200 to 6/13. (As you can see on the screenshots below. First image, without any of these two features / Second image, with time machine trying to find the time capsule drive / Third image, with airplay activate)


The time machine don't manage to find the time capsule drive and failed.

Airplay works for 3 seconds and stops. I've tryed airplay with itunes (the old way) and quicktime with the new airplay option, both stops after 3/4 seconds..


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I made my 30Go time machine backup with an ethernet cable, it worked ok.

I still use my airport express with my iPhone without any problem.

And all other internet usages are working correctly, I can even acces to my data on the time capsule and copy files from with no problem, without this "transmission speed drop" situation.



I have 3 differents wifi signals in my (large) flat:

The time capsule broadcasts 2 different wi-fi n on 2,4ghz and 5ghz

and another Asus router broadcasts wi-fi b/g on 2.4ghz

I've tried the 3 different connections, all have the same "transmission speed drop" issue with airplay and time machine, and these two features don't work anymore.


And of course, I never had this situation with Lion..


Any solution, or is there definitely a bug with mountain lion handling my wi-fi card: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x87)

I already reseted the PRAM and NVRAM; and did an onyx maintenance nothing changed...



Any help appreciate,

Thx

Posted on Jul 29, 2012 11:15 AM

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Sep 29, 2012 7:23 AM in response to sirhyll

I know I'm wasting my time asking, but anyone have a dependable workaround for this? I've tried some that I've found in the forum, but nothing seems to work.


I don't understand why the transmit rate can be so low and the "Internet speed-check" not drop. Also I'd like to get my time machine back working via WIFI (yes it works OK with an Ethernet connection). Manual backups to the portable HD are becoming bothersome.


At any rate, I thought I'd check to see if anything new was found.


Thanks in advance.

Oct 2, 2012 11:20 AM in response to justin_case

justin_case wrote:


I know I'm wasting my time asking, but anyone have a dependable workaround for this?


Yes. Change the wireless radio mode on your router to 802.11a / 802.11b / g .


The problem only exists due to a flaw in the Mountain Lion networking 'n' subsystem code which does not communicate correctly with the Airport card in the MBP3,1. Apple has not addressed this issue, and it's open to debate how much effort they will expend to support 20 dollar software running on a 5-year-old laptop.


Disabling the n on your router bypasses the problem at the expense of network speed. Although the speed will be limited to 54Mbps, it will at least be stable.


The only other workaround involves repeatedly turning the Airport card off and on until a good connection is obtained, but as others have noted, it doesn't stick and must be repeated whenever the problem reappears. I've found that using WiSpy from mkdsoftware [dot] com (free) is useful to me as it constantly reads the "Transmit Rate" from the connection and displays it on the Menu Bar, so you can see at a glance when the Transmit Rate drops.


Good luck.

Oct 2, 2012 12:00 PM in response to aysm?

aysm?,


Thanks for the useful info. Could you tell me how you found this out? Did Apple Tech Support tell you this or do you have access to Apple bug reports?


And as for Apple not addressing this problem because our laptops are 5-years old, well, considering that the "n" subsystem code worked perfectly fine in all previous versions of OS X, then maybe they should be less sloppy about their coding. But yeah, I'm not holding my breath.


In the meantime, I'm not goin giving up network speed in order to start using Time Machine again. I just have Crashplan backing up to one of my network hard drives. It works just as well and uses less overhead than Time Machine.


Thanks.

Oct 2, 2012 12:23 PM in response to Gunny Sack

Gunny Sack wrote:


Thanks for the useful info. Could you tell me how you found this out? Did Apple Tech Support tell you this or do you have access to Apple bug reports?

Apple tech has been no help, and I do not have access to the bug reports. However, replacing the .kext files in System/Library/Extensions with those from Snow Leopard restored the 'n' connectivity for me. It appears that either the correct Atheros file is missing in ML, or the replacement Atheros file is just wonky; in either case, restoring the files from SL did result in a working 'n' subsystem


I'll take no responsibility for anyone killing their OS by replacing the files - do so at your own risk - but to read up on the procedure, I found discussion and procedures elosewhere by google/binging "Wifi doesn't stay connected with 2010 MacBook Pro after upgrade to Mountain Lion"

Oct 2, 2012 12:42 PM in response to aysm?

Aysm,

Thank you...That worked...I'm still a little PO'ed at Apple for ingoring the problem...and they just turned my Airport Extreem into b/g device...Thanks Apple for the downgrade.


But you did get my Time machine back up and working, so I think you very much.


Apple, wake up! No one cares if it's only $20, they want thier devices to work....

Oct 2, 2012 2:46 PM in response to aysm?

aysm,


Thanks for the tip.


I'm going to try the Atheros kext downgrade. First I'm going to try the kext from 10.7.3 since I didn't have TM or Airplay probems with Lion. If that doesn't work, I'll try to the Snow Leopard version.


Here are some links I found that others, should they decide to try this, will find useful:


Kext Wizard - Easy to use Kext Installer and more


Mac OS X 10.7/10.8 Wi-Fi problems and the fix


v3.2 Atheros Wi-Fi driver from Snow Leopard, to use on Lion

Oct 2, 2012 8:40 PM in response to sirhyll

Following aysm's suggestion, I downgraded the wifi kernel extension for my MacBook Pro. Since then, Airplay and Time Machine have been working flawlessly, with no slowdowns in transmit rate. I've been streaming music to my Apple TV ever since.


I downgraded the Mountain Lion Atheros kernel extension (IO80211Family.kext - version 5.0) to version 4.1.2 from Lion 10.6.3.


And if I run into problems with that, I can still downgrade to the kext from Snow Leopard.

Oct 7, 2012 11:06 AM in response to Gunny Sack

The second one posted by Gunny Sack worked for me:


Mac OS X 10.7/10.8 Wi-Fi problems and the fix


I’ve packaged both together and uploaded them to my Dropbox. Unzip, then unzip the Kext Utility, then drop the kext on the Utility app. Supply your password, reboot and then hopefully all is well with your Wi-Fi connection. Obviously only have a go if your Mac has Atheros Wi-Fi hardware!


v3.2 Atheros Wi-Fi driver from Snow Leopard, to use on Lion


Did that last night; speeds now back to 300 and no obvious problems so far (I'm running Mountain Lion). Nice work, folks.


Probably advisable to back up your existing IO80211Family.kext first.

BUG: Mountain Lion kills wifi speed when using airplay or time capsule

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