Q: How to have print box close automatically?

Matt Broughton wrote:

 

We keep talking about Auto Quit function of the printer proxy.  My additional thought was that the printer proxy application is indeed quitting.  It is just the icon in the Dock that is not disappearing like other applications do when they quit.  I think it can more properly be considered an annoying appearance issue.

I agree with your train of thought. I was also thinking along these lines and made the suggestion above re the icon in the dock and the blue light. I felt that if the proxy was closing but just staying in the dock then the blue light should turn off. But then I also thought that if this was the case then the proxy window should not be visible on the desktop. Anyway, I think your action of using the Activity Monitor is a better test.

PAHU wrote:

 

But then I also thought that if this was the case then the proxy window should not be visible on the desktop. Anyway, I think your action of using the Activity Monitor is a better test.

Doh!!  All this, and I totally missed the first sentence of the original post about the progress window being open.  Actually, I have had that issue at least in Lion also.    My experience, however, has been that the progress window never opened until I clicked on the Dock icon.  Then everything would remain open until I closed the progress window.  Then and only then would the progress window and the Dock icon go away.

Checking back to 10.6.8, 10.5.8, and 10.4.11 and I get the exact same thing.  I have to click on the Dock icon to open the progress window.  Then everything remains showing until I close the progress window.

Just to double check, the progress window is automatically opening when you start a print job along with the printer proxy appearing in the Dock?

We seem to be discussing the same issue here:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4139543?tstart=0

Apple - please fix this.

Stephen Schulte1 wrote:

 

BUT I can say that the "proxy" dialog box stays open.  It is visible when I cmd-tab to it, it shows up in DragThing (how can anyone use a Mac without DragThing??), and it shows the blue glow in the Dock.  It does not close automatically.

 

Cmd-tabbing to the proxy is considered "interacting" with the proxy application, so it will stay open. Whether Cmd-tabbing is sufficient to be considered "interacting" is another question. Perhaps send feedback to Apple on this, but the proxy staying open is expected in this case.

Steve,

I realize there's a legitimate issue, and we're trying to find a solution. You mentioned cmd-tab in your post, and I commented specifically on that in csae that's relevant to others having this issue.

john

John Blanchard1 wrote:

 

Cmd-tabbing to the proxy is considered "interacting" with the proxy application, so it will stay open. Whether Cmd-tabbing is sufficient to be considered "interacting" is another question. Perhaps send feedback to Apple on this, but the proxy staying open is expected in this case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very timely input John.  I was had just played around with things enough in SL to get things to work as Stephen said they had worked in the past.  I was able to reproduce this in Lion also.  What I found was that when I did a command-tab to the printer proxy, I would get the progress window to show and everything would quit when the job was done.

I then tried the same technique in ML.  Everything remained open after the job was done.

I did notice something different between ML and previous versions.  In Lion and SL, when I would command-tab to the printer proxy, the progress window did not have focus.  That is, it showed the information, but the title bar and the "traffic lights" in the upper left corner were grayed out.  In ML, the progress window did have focus and it didn't quit.  Anyone else able to confirm or rebut this observation?  I'm just searching for answers too.

I did think of a reason why Apple may have changed the behavior.  The printer proxies in ~/Library/Printers are applications.  When the application is running and there is an open window --whether or not it has focus-- the application should not quit.  Only when all application windows are closed and the application supports sudden termination should the application close on its own.

Steve, thank you, but no apologies necessary! john

Thank you, Matt, and thank you for the detective work. I hadn't noticed in Lion and SL that the proxy window did not have focus. I wonder, if this change was intentional, then, using the same reason you explained.

Please forgive me for cutting into the conversation.  Stephen, I noticed that you said "print box", which implies that you actually brought up the main window of the printer proxy.  What happens if you click the red button on the top-left corner of the window to close it, then the next time you print to it, don't try to click the dock icon?

Stephen, if you double click a zip file in Finder, the Archiveal Utility should launch and unzip the file.  After finishing the unzip, Archiveal Utility should quit, I wonder whether on your system it does not auto-quit, either.  Could you please give it a try?