Upgrading OS X Lion Server to Mountain Lion

I have a Mac Mini Server (Mid 2011, the one with 2 500GB disks) that came with OS X Lion and the server package.


I am now considering an upgrade to OS X Mountain Lion.


My question is this: When I upgrade to Mountain Lion, will I be running Mountain Lion "Desktop" or Mountain Lion "Server?"


I ask this because when I went to the Mac App Store and select "OS X Server," it told me it was a $19.99 download. Since I already have the server components, do I need to repurchase them after upgrading to Mountain Lion, or will the "right thing" happen, and the upgrade will upgrade my Lion Server components to Mountain Lion?


I ask this because I'm not sure I want to upgrade my OS for $19.99, only to find that in doing so, I downgraded my server components in the process. I fear that having to download both Mountain Lion and OS X Server (at $19.99 each) means that my OS upgrade will cost me twice as much as I was expecting.


If somebody can answer this for me definitively, then it will give me a clue as to when I'll do the upgrade. If it is only $19.99 to upgrade, I can do it within the next couple of weeks. If it's twice as much, I might wait until I'm forced to upgrade (e.g, when Xcode no longer supports Lion) before shelling out the money.


Regards,


lar3ry

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7.4), Lion Server

Posted on Aug 1, 2012 6:07 PM

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Aug 1, 2012 9:39 PM in response to lar3ry

Installing 10.8 over 10.7 Server removes the server components, but archives the server data. When you install the 10.8 Server application, it tries to import your server data, but don't stake too much on success. Thoroughly research how you would migrate your data manually before you upgrade. The suggestion to wait until OS X Server is more mature is a good one.

Aug 2, 2012 9:55 AM in response to lar3ry

I upgraded all our late 2011 Mac Minis that were running Lion to Mointain Lion and upgraded our late 2011 Lion Server to Mountain Lion with the server App and it has been a pain in the ***. User profiles don't work properly, have to keep deleting .ds files, repairing permissins etc. iTunes, Google Chrome and Spotify don't open! Wish I had waited, I just had so much faith in Apple/Mac making upgrades so painless that I didn't think anything could go wrong.


Support *****! I can't take all of my network to the genius bar to fix this.

Aug 18, 2012 7:22 AM in response to lar3ry

As Linc stated, "don't stake too much on success." Upgrading from Lion Server to Mountain Lion was easy enough, but as already pointed out, renders your server components inoperable. So you'd better be ready with OSX Server Mountain Lion or you'll be down between upgrades.


ML Server does indeed try to upgrade your server components, but I've not had it work at all in the three times I've tried (twice on production installs and once on dev install). I've a very simple web site and mailstore with only 5 users. The upgrade process couldn't even convert that, leaving my web root empty, and my mailstore freshly initialized. The web was surprising as it's only files, but that is also the easiest. Mail, on the other hand, is not something one should have to go through a series of steps to migrate.


I'm going to see what happens if I attempt to manually copy mailstore components over just for the interest of science. 🙂 Also note that your DHCP service control applet is removed from Server Manager in Mountain Lion Server. However, the service itself is still available for manual control. There are some hacks around getting it to start up via the configuration of Internet Sharing, but I wouldn't mess with that. Just manually launch it. It too is supposed to perform an in-place upgrade - I actually never got as far as to check if the DHCP service migrated (and you can't tell without going manual which I just didn't feel like doing) but I wouldn't expect too much. Now, why did Apple remove DHCP? NFI. Seemed like a really odd and a negative-impact feature removal. I mean, they had to go through the trouble of removing it rather than just leaving it be. Bad move if you asked me.


Anyway, good luck.

t

Aug 30, 2012 7:37 AM in response to lar3ry

I just upgraded my Lion Server to ML, but have not had a chance to review all the impacts. I did notice that it was not consistent on how it handled my mobile users. One was left as a network users and one was changed to a local user on the server. Did not have time yet to attempt a login of the one changed to local, to see if the mobile sync feature is still working. I have anticipate I will have to remove the user and add it again to force it back to a network mobile user with the account sync capability.


It also looks like ML server forces you over to using profile manager. Since I wasn't able to get my mobile users to work correctly in Lion Server with the profile manager, I am concerned about adding more or managing the ones I have without the Server Admin tools that I had been so dependent on in Lion.

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