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Finder windows don't retain settings!!

I don't usually switch to a new OS right away – and now I know why. Lots of teething problems with Mountain Lion. (Kinda had to upgrade early this time - new MBA for my daughter who is on a mission to fight Hunger in Africa and wanted to be able to assist her setting-up her MBA…)


OK there is much to love about Mountain Lion, including dictation which is how I am writing this post.


The big problem I'm having right now is that my finder windows change upon start up. My main finder window when I open my hard drive has 30 icons. I have this set for the snap-to grid-mode and I have a picture as the background for this finder window.


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You can see that this is quite colorful, easy to recognize and has some personalized icons that go back to Mac OS 6.0.4.


But when I restart my Mac (fortunately only a couple times a week) the picture is gone and the icons are all on a white background in alphabetical order. For some 20 years I've used a main window, a main finder window as an easy and friendly way to recognize and organize things. Now every time I start up I have to spend five minutes rearranging the icons and resetting this. I heard there was a similar bug in lion 10.7.1 or 10.7.2.


(And yes I built that 6 foot tall, 4 inch diameter rocket and launched it to 800 meters altitude, safely recovered, in 2009).


Is anyone having this problem? If not could you try to load an image and set for snap to grid and restart your Mac to see if this problem is an OS problem or conflict with another program? I use CopyPaste Pro, DragThing, TextExpander, aLaunch, StockMenulet, Free Memory, MenuCalendarClock and a host of other shareware / App Store programs -- but I have used all these programs for the last 2 to 5 years and never, repeat never had this window missing artwork and re-organization problem.


This dictation via Mountain Lion is great! (But see my other post – the missing cursor problem is another one that is bugging me…)


Thanks very much.


Steve

MacOnly since 1989

Thursday 2 August 2012

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion, Also a Mac SE running 6.0.4 - not upgrading that!

Posted on Aug 2, 2012 4:49 AM

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Jan 14, 2013 7:05 PM in response to softwater

softwater->


Been there, done that. I've tried deleting tons of other prefs, nothing helped.


This issue survived a clean install, my second diagnostic account with no Login Items experiences it.


It's definitely a .DS_Store related issue, I'm not sure if the Finder is mis-reading or corrupting the files, or simply reading a .DS_Store from another folder. I've tried locking the .DS_Store files and still see bad behavior...

Jan 14, 2013 7:08 PM in response to Stephen Schulte1

Steve->


Me too, I gave up on a couple of windows, they absolutely refuse to homor any setting. Interestingly, on one folder the Finder it insists on displaying one icon in the same spot, even after I deleted the .DS_Store and reset the folder.


As I said in my other post, I think the Finder may be reading the wrong .DS-Store for some folders. SOme evidence of this is that locking a .DS_Store affects the display of its sub-folders.


Agreed, a royal PITA.


I'll file a bug report if I can naroow more down to help Apple.

Jan 14, 2013 7:16 PM in response to Stephen Schulte1

Steve->


rm ~/Library/Preferences/finder.plist is similar to dragging the file to the Trash, except rm gets rid of it immediately instead of moving it to the Trash. And be aware that commands typed into Terminal are case sensitive, RM won't work.


softwater has a typo, the file name is com.apple.finder.plist.


IMHO it's easier for most folks to:

1) quit all apps

2) move the file to the Trash

3) Log out & back in or Restart


Also: cache corruption can contribute to many issues, I highkly recommend running Onyx to delete all the various caches periodically. I do it at least once a week.

Jan 14, 2013 7:51 PM in response to Barney-15E

Barney-15E wrote:


And, if while typing the command you accidentally hit return after the first /, you might delete your home folder completely. Just copy and paste the command.


Since the current working directory is ~/ when you log in, I doubt that's possible, but I take the general point - typing commands into Terminal can be a dangerous business. Always have a backup before messing with anything on your computer.

Jan 14, 2013 7:57 PM in response to cyborgsam

Agreed, corrupt caches can cause problems, but personally I've never experienced one from 10.3.9 all the way through to 10.8.2., and there's no benefit in cleaning out the caches as a maintenance activity on a weekly or even monthly basis.


IMO, it's a troubleshooting technique worth doing only when other options have been exhausted and in order to rectify a particular problem.

Jan 14, 2013 7:59 PM in response to softwater

I disagree. Many of the Macs I support get massive speedups when I delete all the caches. Even servers, which are more immune to corrupt cache issues.


I do this as normal maintenance on most Macs I suuport and as one of the primary troubleshooting tools.


You're unusually lucky if you've never had a cache related issue, especially in web browsers.

Jan 14, 2013 8:32 PM in response to cyborgsam

cyborgsam wrote:


I'll file a bug report if I can naroow more down to help Apple.


Getting back to the OPs problem, I doubt its a bug. I can't reproduce it on my system. I never use icon view, but I just tried setting the background picture and restarting. No problems here. I'd suggest this is a third-party conflict.


When you say "it survived a clean install", did you erase the installation disk before re-installing, and did you test it before migrating /adding your any 3rd party software and/or personal folders and files?


EDIT: another possibility is the image itself is corrupt or its location is. Try copying the image to another location and try using a different image to see if the problem concerns the image itself. Ensure the image is jpeg format.

Jan 14, 2013 8:47 PM in response to softwater

softwater->


Thanks for your suggestions, although I don't always agree I do appreciate you trying to help. I welcome more discussion, I always look forward to learning a new trick!


The X Lab's downsides to cleaning caches are minimal impact at best. Their labeling of cache cleaning as a myth isn't constructive, it's a way to dismiss those who think otherwise. There are plenty of other professional Mac support people who agree with what I've espoused.


I read through The X Lab's SBBOD, nothing I didn't know. The cures they list are minimalistic and don't solve many people's issues.


What little hard evidence I have or have read about indicates that the problems may originate in sqlite issues. If true, then clearing caches that aren't based on sqlite would probably be overkill.

Finder windows don't retain settings!!

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