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Snow Leopard home directory group

When I perform a ls -l of my home directory after a reinstall of the Snow Leopard Disk I see a group of "wheel" before the installation disk had a group of "staff" for my home directory. Which is correct for a fresh install? Should the group for home directory be Wheel or Staff?

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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Aug 6, 2012 10:30 PM

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Aug 7, 2012 6:08 AM in response to macfrombrampton

On a system that is only used by you, wheel is fine. It basically says anyone in the "wheel" group can access your home folder via the 'group' permissions on your home folder. But since the "wheel" group tends to be associated with admins, chances are members of the "wheel" group have other privileged ways of accessing anything on the Mac they want. And in 99.999999% of the cases, the "wheel" is you and only you.


I have a clean install Lion and my home is "staff". I expect your's should be "staff" as well.

Aug 7, 2012 3:45 PM in response to Mark Jalbert

Mark, this occurred after a complete reinstall of Snow leopard and update. I am suspecting my updates are being misdirected to a file server providing incorrect infomration. My previous snow Leopard install had the group "staff". Also I also got a update called MBP17 in my software update that was not yet identified in my previous post.

Aug 13, 2012 7:27 AM in response to Kurt Lang

You could also look this stuff up yourself instead of bothering other users here with your paranoia. Here's some references:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_(Unix_term)


Also from Apple's page here:


Group - Admin users are members of the groups called "staff" and "admin". The super user "root" is a member of these and several other groups. Non-admin users are members of "staff" only. Typically, all files and folders are assigned to either "staff," "admin," or "wheel".

Aug 19, 2012 2:10 PM in response to noondaywitch

Yeah, but the only reason I respond is to fend off people seeing a thread like this and then saying, "I have this too! Am I infected with something?"


Now technically, he shouldn't normally be seeing wheel for his account. I checked my current installs of Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion, and ls -l in both assign all of my user account ownership as staff. But as the text in Apple's own documentation show ...


Typically, all files and folders are assigned to either "staff," "admin," or "wheel".


... it doesn't always come out this way. What I referred to above was I kept erasing a partition over and over to test various versions of OS X with the Adobe CS5.5 and CS6 Master Collections to see where a problem was being introduced, and how to fix it. With this thread in mind, I was also watching the ownership assignments. Most of the time, my admin and standard accounts came up as staff. But once in a while, they'd be wheel. But it makes no difference which one you are assigned to. It's like being King or Emperor. Same difference.

Aug 25, 2012 10:17 AM in response to Kurt Lang

When I perform a fresh install from my Snow Leopard disk I get a group of Staff on my directory when you go to an Apple store and examine a Mac, you will see this as well. However Kurt Lang and Mark Jambert are stating that having the group wheel is normal for a fresh install.


I believe that it is possbile to have the updates, the Mac receives changed or directed to specific Mac's allowing changes like groups to occur.


To find the groups you have in your directory simple open up "terminal" type ls -l

Snow Leopard home directory group

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