Currently Being ModeratedAug 8, 2012 3:26 PM (in response to Sergio Tezza)
Sergio Tezza wrote:
Since I had the BAD idea to install Mountain Lion I have had only trouble.
Given the fact that Safari deosn't start unless I ALWAYS force reload the pages and the loss of functionalities like RSS which were in Safari 5.1.7 but not in Safari 6, I had to drop it as my favorite browser after MANY YEARS and pass to Firefox which is FLAWLESS.
Another MAJOR issue that I want to mention is the fact that with M.L. my free Memory at startup, with the same login items, has gone down from an average of 6.9/7 Giga to a 5 Giga or less.
Even freeing memory doesn't help.
The other problem is a HORRIBLE DOWNGRADE ALSO IN BATTERY LIFE which has STARTED the moment I installed M.L.
Instead of the usual 7-7 1/2 hours, I now get about 3 1/2 hours.
I have done PRAM reset and permission repairs (which, BTW, take EVEN 10 minutes!!!) but to no avail.
And on top of it, EVERYTHING is much slower than with Snow Leopard!
A MAJOR SYSTEM UPDATE IS NEEDED URGENTLY!
This system for now s*u*c*k*s feet fungi! ...And one cannot go back to the previous system!!!
You have serious problems with your computer and/or system install. You surely read up on Mountain Lion before YOU decided to install it. Lion and ML have shown to not have the battery loife of SL. Where have you been?
As for everything else you are carrying on about, I have seen none of it, and only see a post here in this Troubleshooting furum now and then complaining of problems. Look closer to home, and start by reading posts on the right hand side of the page under 'More Like This'. No major update is coming, only the normal incremental updates as always.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 8, 2012 3:54 PM (in response to petermac87)
Were have I been?
Where have YOU been... given that there are THOUSANDS of complaints about loss of battery life on M.L. and even on the Apple site, and the media have started writing about it ALL OVER THE WORLD, I guess it should BECOME Apple's problem!
I have been using Mac for 25 years and NEVER seen such a lousy system!
HAD I KNOWN BEFORE, OR ACTUALLY HAD APPLE SAID BEFORE COMMERCIALIZING OSX 10.8 that RAM usage would be a disaster and so would be battery life, people like me would not have downgraded to such a system!
My problem was to trust Apple as I have done for over two decades. This time I was wrong and I am not pleased by it.
I not only created a brand new user account, I actually ever re-formatted the whole disk and re-installed the system ANEW, one week after the first install and after innumerable problems, and NOTHING CHANGED.
My MacBook Pro was functioning PERFECTLY before:it is less than 2 years old, with 8 giga of RAM!
Currently Being ModeratedAug 8, 2012 3:53 PM (in response to Sergio Tezza)
As Matthew points out, something's not right with your system. What you are seeing is not normal, regardless of what you may read in a troubleshooting forum like this one. In addition to Matthew's excellent idea of testing with a different user account, try some of the other fixes in Understanding upgrade nightmares.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 8, 2012 4:01 PM (in response to petermac87)
Where have you been?
Peter, this kind of response ("You surely [did X]. Where have you been?") is not productive, and simply serves to turn people like Sergio against not only you, but also against the rest of us who are trying to express the same idea in a different way.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 8, 2012 4:02 PM (in response to Sergio Tezza)
Isn't THAT exactly the reason why I took the pain of writing and got snotty answers?...
I'm sorry that you got a snotty response from Peter, but my response was not meant to be snotty in the slightest. I'm simply trying to help you solve your problem.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 8, 2012 5:00 PM (in response to Sergio Tezza)
Ignoring the "snotty answers", I want to reitierate my suggestion of test ML with a newly minted user account.
This will allow you to quickly see if there is something wrong with your ML installation or if your current user account is a factor.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 8, 2012 5:32 PM (in response to petermac87)
Must have been the politeness of the original post that caused me to answer in a similar vain.
Criticizing someone who is upset and doesn't understand the source of his problems is never an effective way to convince him to listen to your point of view.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 9, 2012 1:54 AM (in response to thomas_r.)
Thank you Thomas. Some common sense, respect and politeness helps.
Unless... I have no right to be upset at a system that was put out and for which I even payed (a first in 25 years for me with Mac) and someone finds "offensive" (who is he, the system's mom or child?) some very harsh (IMHO with reasons) criticism of this system!
To begin with, it would REALLY help if, INSTEAD OF SHOOTING answers which are NOT answers, one took the time to read the question well and to try and understand if the person who asks is a newbie or not (in my profile there is a 25 years of Mac experience), and may be NOT insisting on the creation of a new user account when a few messages above I had already written that:
"I not only created a brand new user account, I actually ever re-formatted the whole disk and re-installed the system ANEW, one week after the first install and after innumerable problems, and NOTHING CHANGED".
I consider the REPEAT of such a suggestion just disrespectful, since I had written that I had already done all that and more, and I find it also also upsetting, after one week of PURE **** with my computer, something NEVER experienced before.
In the meantime, I disabled the [for me] useless and actually annoying "Notifications" even eliminating it from the toolbar, and free RAM at startup jumped immediately UP about ONE GIGA, back to 5.2 out of 8, and, after using freemory pro (even if it really bugs me to have to do that everytime I startup!) I gain another giga, and I am back to something more normal like 6.2 out of 8.
However, no way for me to have Safari start without forced reloading (while Firefox is flawless) and I also still have the rest of the BUGS, not last of which is with Mail showing the "blocked plug-in" (after re-installing a brand new FlashPlayer with the new system installation) and not allowing Control-F in address field, which I had done since Mail was invented.
As another person, probably another "idiot" like me who doesn't know that Mountain Lion is perfect and it is all his fault, (I quote him): "I send out 'stuff' to a distribution of people (Bcc, of course) and always take pains to remove the original sender from the list. I then used to put the cursor in the list of distributes, hit Command + A then Command + F and "find" whomever it was I needed to omit. This handy feature is now disabled. Sigh."
I really resent that some people at Apple are so much under windoz influence that they have been eliminating one by one the great characteristics that made Mac a DIFFERENT system, above all a USER FRIENDLY SYSTEM.
Now it is much less so, and on top of it you have Mac users in this forum, who probably started with a PC (which I NEVER touched) who get upset when one points out the flaws in the new creations...
Besides some politeness and empathy, he should learn some English: it is "in the same VEIN", not vain...like his remarks... ;-)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 9, 2012 3:03 AM (in response to petermac87)
There is a major difference between a typo caused by fast typing and the proximity of the two letters on the keyboard (a typo which I corrected ONE MINUTE after posting and re-reading, and if copying from the online text rather than from e-mail text would not have been there), and a CONCEPTUAL ERROR...vain/vein, plain/plane, bare/bear, etc.
VERY EASY INDEED!
BTW: someone who uses Lion, should not be preaching on the Mountain Lion forum!