Using both Pro Tools AND Logic togther

I just got a Mac Book Pro and after intensive reading and debate on the subject, I have decided I want to run/use BOTH Logic AND Pro Tools. Is anyone here familiar with running both programs together and how such a set up can be constructed? I was thinking about using an M-Audio interface (not sure which one) and running both Pro Tools LE M-Powered and Logic together. Of course, the Pro Tools software isn't ready for the Mac Book Pro yet, but I am talking about completing this set up in a few months when the new Pro Tools software is available. Appreciate any advice.

Mac book Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.5), 1.83 GHz

Posted on Mar 26, 2006 10:58 PM

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Mar 27, 2006 7:37 AM in response to Justin C

hey,

i run both apps daily. i bit the bullet and do have an pt hd system but am able to run both pt and logic at the same time on the same computer. anyway getting both pt and logic at the same time is a huge undertaking and something i wouldn't recommend...i know cause i did it when i started with logic 4.5 and pt 5.01 way back when.

being honest...if you are mainly recording/editing audio and especially live drums...i'd go with pt. it is really straight forward. It's almost like using microsoft word for audio. the audio plugins that are availible for it really smoke everyone else imho but they can be expensive. there are enough virtual instrument out there now that you can pretty much do the same sort of creative stuff in pt as you can in logic

if you are going to do a lot of programming then i'd go with logic. keep in mind that the learning curve on logic is huge and i find that there are a lot of people who use logic but very few who really know it. the flexibilty of what you can do with logic is pretty rad but you kinda have to know what you are doing in order to take advantage of it. also the amount of virtual synths and plugs that com stock with logic is sick.

it is true that both can sequence and handle audio and i think that both app can do enough of what the other does in order to get the job done. if i were you i'd pick one and really learn it. you'll be cool either way

ej

Mar 26, 2006 11:16 PM in response to Jack Q

Yes, I want to run them both on my laptop, if this is possible. Basically, I have never used either program before, so I am not to familiar with the programs besides reading. I know that Pro Tools is an industry standard, mainly used for recording live instruments and Logic is better for Midi. Even though I will be recording mostly live instruments, I am leaning more towards Logic because I'm not spending $20,000+ on a Pro Tools HD system, (and logic, I've read, is better for the "creative" side of songwriting) BUT, I do want to be familiar with and knowledgeable with Pro Tools because a lot of people use it.
Thoughts?

Mar 26, 2006 11:27 PM in response to Jack Q

Having used Pro Tools (just enough to try it out really) and Logic (which I've owned for a couple of months now), I've got to say that you are biting off a big piece of learning to chew on. Logic is a very complex program (that just plain ROCKS). You do get a lot of creative options with LP7. Pro Tools just seems like an audio editor, with a couple of very nicely honed bells and whistles. I haven't tried out the newest PT. It's supposed to have upgraded it's MIDI capabilities, but I haven't heard anything definite yet.

Whatever you decide, Good Luck and Have Fun!

Mar 26, 2006 11:29 PM in response to Jack Q

Oh wow...that's alot of info to go over. It's good to know both apps yes, they each have strengths but running this is really a headache. One at a time will be great though (once PT is ready for Intel). Logic has many more plugs and synths/samplers by far. Recording Live instruments....you can use either app. Be aware that the Digidesign CoreAudio drivers are some of the least stable so if you are lanning on having 1 interface...Digi is a bad choice-the MAudio is much safer. It's going to cost you a few hundred for PT Mpowered...If you're new to this then 1 app is going to give you plenty of power to get going for a long while-both are capable. I can try to help you decide if you want to start with one but syncing them realtime is a headache you shouldn't have to deal with. Most people would just use the one with more audio tracks as the master and the other slaving to it via MTC or LTC types of sync.

I dunno...let me know what you think, J

Mar 27, 2006 12:04 AM in response to Jack Q

Hey Jack Q,

Well, just o you know...each DAW you're running is like a bratty kid and you and the computer are the parents...each DAW is very capable. You have been warned. : ^)

Ok, (Scenario 1) there is a little thing in Audio MIDI setup called IAC Driver (InterApplication Communication) for MIDI-you send MTC from PT to Logic and have PT as the master with Logic chasing. The problem is....you have 1 interface or 2 if you count the internal (which you can use-I am really not sure if they rewire). Since you are using PT and Logic you need 2 interfaces (unles you rewire-if possible). The MBP has optical so you're good for a few channels of audio but really it would work so much better with a 2nd dedicated audio interface. It depends on your productions of course but in this case it would make sense to use PT as the Audio Track player/editor and Logic for FX and synths+MIDI. This is what most peole do in a Logic synced to PT setup. You'd have the Logic interface slave to the PT word clock and Timecode MTC. MTC is just timecode, I actually am not positive if PT LE offers this because it was once monodirectional and I am getting sleepy. Most of the time this is done with 2 comps, 1 for Logic and 1 for PT (TDM).

I don't recommend it. What you may want to do if you want to learn both apps is track and apply sequences FX, rough mixes in Logic and do all the fine editing and mixing in PT. Of course, there are several ways to do this. Maybe you can be really specific to what your work is?

J

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