Can Safari work online with MS Dot Net?

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Can Safari work online with MS Dot Net?

I need technical help from a Mac/PC cross-compatability expert familiar with IE and Safari.

I am a Mac-based art studio hired to make a "Dot Net" application service provider and clients look good. I am an experienced CSS guy using an 1.07GHz iBookG4 on OS X 10.4.5 with 768 DDR SDRAM and 5GB of available HD.

Problem:

I can't get an Dot Net online HTML editor to work on my Mac. It seems to insist on Internet Explorer 6+ as a browser. (no more mac support here!)

IE is my LEAST favorite browser and I've tried Mozilla Firefox, Camino, Opera, Explorer 5.2, and the AOL Browser, which I believe is Netscape.

I tried changing the User Agent by adding the Debug menu so I can make Safari appear as Windows MSIE 6.0, and I still can't get see the online Dot Net toolbars at all, or even the menus correctly.

Dot Net and Dot Net Nuke are Microsoft things that appear to only work on PC's, even though they are supposedly "platform neutral".

I am desperately trying to avoid polluting my studio with a Pee Cee purchase.

Any work arounds, helps or fixes?

Thanks a ton

iBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Posted on Mar 27, 2006 9:20 AM

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Answer 1

Tom Gewecke

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Mar 27, 2006 10:16 AM in response to Yellowstone Jeff

I tried changing the User Agent by adding the Debug
menu so I can make Safari appear as Windows MSIE 6.0,
and I still can't get see the online Dot Net toolbars
at all, or even the menus correctly.

This is typical of stuff that works only on Windows. The only solution is probably to use VPC or a PC.

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Answer 2

Mar 27, 2006 12:56 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

The guys at Camino said the same thing. However, my experience in the Mac community has been that no matter the problem, there someone who knows a work-around.

With Microsoft no longer supporting IE for Mac, this may force those of us who love Mac's to buy Pee Cee's to keep our jobs. With the arrival of Vista being pushed back every month, this may be MS's way of keeping IE and Windows alive.

It seems like a simple problem, but Dot Net is growing, and Apple surely see's the implications of MS not playing nice with IE, or even paying attention to WC3 standards.

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Answer 3

Episcript

Level 2

454 points

Mar 27, 2006 1:07 PM in response to Yellowstone Jeff

Little question. Is .net the same thing as directX, how is it different? Yeah, I heard it's supposed to be cross platform too. Maybe they mean it's easy to port over or something.

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Answer 4

Mar 27, 2006 9:15 PM in response to Episcript

From http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/... "DirectX provides a standard development platform for Windows-based PCs by enabling software developers to access specialized hardware features without having to write hardware-specific code."

So its similar to DotNet in that it is a "platform". Dot Net builds applications, DirectX seems to be a gaming development thing.

Perhaps there's someone who has worked with Mono that can help me ( http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page). Mono seems to be a way to develop .Net applications with OS X, Linux, Unix, Solaris etc...

I don't want to develop anything with .net, I just want to get tools and menus of an on-line HTML editor to show up with any browser... preferably Safari running on Tiger.

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Answer 5

Episcript

Level 2

454 points

Mar 28, 2006 6:47 AM in response to Yellowstone Jeff

Whoops. Sorry, brain cramp. I meant activex. MS can have some confusing branding: Xbox, activeX, directX etc. Now they're totally crazy on the 'live' moniker.

Anyways activeX is what I meant. That's the tech that only works with IE/Windows.

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Answer 6

Mar 29, 2006 8:05 PM in response to Episcript

I am an art studio hired to use a Dot Net ASP online HTML editor so I can match the look of the ASP clients web sites.

Problem:

I can't get the Dot Net Nuke online HTML editor to work on any other browser other than Internet Explorer 6+ as a browser AND on a Pee Cee.

I've tried Mozilla Firefox, Camino, Opera, Explorer 5.2, and the AOL Browser, which I believe is Netscape.

I can get Safari to change its useragent to MSIE 6 in the DeBug menu, but I still can't get see the online Dot Net toolbars at all, or even the menus correctly. SO frustrating!

These web based ASP tools are supposedly "platform neutral", which makes me more than a bit baffled why the tools would be written to only acommodate abandonware like MSIE.

Any work arounds, helps or fixes?

I would appreciate any suggestions! (except buying a PC)

iBookG4 OS X 10.4.5 1.07GHz, 768 DDR SDRAM with 5GB of available HD.

I've never had a problem I couldn't fix myself (unitl now) since 1986 on my former machines: Mac 512KE, Mac SE30, Mac IIsi, (a short lapse with a UMAX S900 when I needed lots of PCI slots), eMac and my favorite of all: this little iBookG4.

Jeff

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