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How do you stop Mountain Lion from making endless copies and backups of everything?!

I already have a similar topic on this when I needed to figure out how to stop Mountain Lion from making endless copies of my text edit files and I was going to try the disabling of it that someone in that thread suggested, but I can't find where the Versions backups are being stored.


Anyway, tonight I cam across a new problem, when I went into "about this Mac" and looked at my Storage, I had almost 1gb of data in the "backups" section. I just happened to have Finder open when I went into the Time Machine in the status bar and when it entered Time Machine, I had dozens of copies of my desktop. Thing is, I don't have my Time Machine hard drive connected and I don't have a Time Capsule router/hard drive. And don't give me this garbage about how "It's not real backups, it's just a snapshot" or whatever, because the ONLY things that I have stored on my computer that I have altered since I got mountain lion is two Text Edit files and the Finder Desktop (and yes, I have checked almost all the programs I use, and of the things that Time Machine will open in, those are the only things that have backups listed that I can access) and almost 1gb is being taken up completely needlessly with the computer backing up things onto itself. Obviously these are more than just snapshots and are obviously the real files because after throwing EVERYTHING on my desktop into a file, that file is only 3.8mb in size, so that almost 1GB in backups is coming from SOMEWHERE.


The solution I aluded to in my first sentence also depends on going into the Terminal to make each individual app stop auto saving Versions, however, since my desktop is being backed up, there's no program to stop Mountain Lion from doing that.


Can anyone help me figure out how to make it stop backing up? Seriously, almost 1 gb is being totally wasted on a series of desktop items that are 3.8mb in size, one Text Edit file that is 250kb in size, and another text edit file that is 41kb in size. What person in Apple would possibly have thought this endless backing up of files onto the main hard drive would have been a good idea? So in a year if I did nothing but go on the internet, save one picture to one file on my desktop and did nothing else with my computer, would I have 200 gb of desktop backups that the computer saved onto itself? Are you kidding me? OR failing that, can anyone tell me how to find this ****** backup file and delete it? I'm not an idiot, I know how to plug in a hard drive or flash drive and backup my information, I don't need my computer to be making hundreds of copies of every single file on my computer that I change slightly onto itself that not only needlessly eats up it's own space, but if the hard drive died, all those "backups" would be gone too because it wrote the backups to itself.


I am so frustrated by this totally ridiculous and wasteful "feature" they put in, it does nothing but waste hard drive space with it's hundreds of copies of everything you alter slightly. And I am absolutely not starting any video editing projects until I figure out how to turn this off. If around 4mb of total text and desktop backups add up to almost 1gb in a few weeks, what the heck is a video editing project going to end up in with size? Am I the only one completely flustered by this ridiculousness? Is there any point in writing into Apple to complain or are they just going to say "No, we're brilliant, we think this is an amazing feature so you just have to deal iwth it and when your hardd drive fills up, too bad, jerk!"?? Help! Thanks!

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Posted on Aug 16, 2012 2:50 AM

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Posted on Aug 16, 2012 3:48 AM

My impression is that you have Time Machine turned on but since you are not connected to an external drive, TM is just backing up everything to your internal drive. But I'm no expert, because I hate TM and keep it off and locked. Try turning it off.

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Aug 16, 2012 3:28 PM in response to Tom in London

Thank you Tom, that apparently is exactly what the problem was! Turning off Time MAchine did stop the endless desktop backups at least and deleted them, so thank you very much for pointing them out. Sadly, my Text Edit documents are still all there, every single time I opened them and made a small change, there is another copy stretching all the way back to the day I installed Mountain Lion. But at least I got the desktop to stop backing up. Thank you so much for that. Now it's just the individual apps that create files on my computer that I have to deal with. Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? Yeesh! Thanks again so much

Aug 16, 2012 4:53 PM in response to Howmander

This is a good idea, and does not have any real-world affect on your disk space. The local snapshots are only kept for a week, and only then as long as disk space doesn't start getting too low, as pointed out in that article I referred you to. Local snapshots have saved me a couple times from careless accidental deletions while I was away from my regular backups. You can certainly choose to disable them if you like, but you will be missing out on this opportunity in exchange for an illusory gain in disk space.

Aug 16, 2012 5:18 PM in response to thomas_r.

Well as I pointed out in my post, "Sadly, my Text Edit documents are still all there, every single time I opened them and made a small change, there is another copy stretching all the way back to the day I installed Mountain Lion." so if you can explain to me how July 26 - Aug 16 is a week, I will concede that it is a good idea. Short of that, no I have been capable of making my own backups since I was 16 years old (16 years ago) I don't need my computer to endlessly do it for me in a way I am completely unable to shut off. That's what I have external hard drives, flash drives, a DVD burner, Drop Box, E-mail (as in emailing copies to myself) and icloud for. If I am doing something and I don't have access to a single one of those options, I don't know why I brought my computer with me in the first place. And I don't see how you can say it's an illusory gain in disk space, hundreds of copies of text documents, garageband files, Final Cut files, Motion Files and basically any program that makes files onto my comptuer that I can myself make incremental changes to, those all need to be stored somehow. Again, if you can explain to me how July 26 - Aug 16 is a week, I will agree with you that that is a good thing because IF it only saved for a week, it wouldn't be an issue. Sadly, no matter how many links you post, I still have text edit backups stretching from today back to July 26. They're not going away and I have no reason to beleive any other file I edit is going to go away either since they haven't been. They're all there eating up HD space and this imaginary "week" limit is simply not coming into effect. I hate it and there needs to be a simple way to simply shut it off. I didn't spend hundreds of dollars on external drives just for my main hard drive to be filled up with hundreds un useless, undeletable backups of stuff I already have backed up.

Aug 16, 2012 5:23 PM in response to Howmander

Since you have turned off local snapshots, it should be fairly self-evident that whatever you're seeing with your TextEdit documents are NOT local snapshots. Most likely you are confusing Versions with local snapshots. If you like, you can disable Versions as well. Since you have shown a thoroughly ungrateful attitude, and seem to have no interest in listening to what someone else may have to say on the matter, I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader.

Sep 26, 2012 5:44 AM in response to thomas_r.

Hi Thomas,

Thank you so much for you post. It gave me all the answers I was after.I upgraded to Mountain Lion 4 days ago and noticed my available space was dissappearing daily.

I spent a full day yesterday on the computer trying to regain space by deleting files....only this did not increase my available space????. The more I tried to create, the more seemed to dissappear.

I read everything I could.

Finally I spent and hour on Apple support phone call...they couldnt help either. They suggested that when I plugged my external hard drive in and did a back up that the 'Snapshots' would go and I would regain the space in the hard drive. This didnt happen. I rang and spent another half an hour on the phone and they still couldnt help.They were supposed to get their senior to phone me back....and no call.


So lucky for me I finally found this thread which explains everything perfectly. Now I know I can look at the available space that shows in Finder and not worry about what is showing in Disc Utility or in the Apple Storage information bar.

I am not an experienced computer user and rely heavily on googling any problems I have.


I wish to thank you and everyone else who takes the time to post answers to questions.

To me, you are an absolute Angel.

Warm Regards

Bunyip

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