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Network Connection - could not find a PPPoE server

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I have a Windows box that I use every day, connected to DSL by ethernet to a D-Link modem/router. I frequently connect/disconnect my MacBook Pro 10.6.8 and, until recently, all was well. It would be online as soon as it booted up. Now, while my Windows machine still gets online fine, MacBook says my ethernet is connected, but I can't get online. My DHCP is fine, but when I click the connect button for PPPoE, I get the message "Network Connection - could not find a PPPoE server". I didn't look but I'm assuming it was using both DHCP and PPPoE when it was working properly.


Took it to the shop and as soon as they plugged it in, it was online, with both the DHCP and PPPoE working.


My ISP says it must be a driver issue for PPPoE, something to do with the configuration. So 2 shops say they can only fix it by coming to my home, instead of me taking it in to them. Are they correct, or how can I fix it myself, bearing in mind that I'm fairly new with this?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Aug 17, 2012 12:55 PM

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Aug 17, 2012 2:40 PM in response to tioli

If you have Router, there is NO REASON for you to use PPPoE on your computers.


Set the Router to do the PPPoE Once, and you never have to deal with it again on any of the attached computers. In this setup, the computers just use DHCP (NOT PPPoE) and everything is much simpler.


Those guys you are talking to just want the money for the service call.

Aug 17, 2012 4:20 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks for answering, Grant. I totally agree about the service call. But they're persuasive, and I'm not quite literate enough to argue. And I'm afraid I don't understand how to set the router for PPPoE. When I click connect, it says it cant't find the server. And although the Mac is already online with DHCP only, I can't surf or email. (But I can on Windows)

Aug 17, 2012 5:20 PM in response to tioli

First, I assume your ISP really is requiring you to use PPPoE, that your Windows machine is s et up for PPoE, and that this is not just a configuartion error on your Mac.


To get your Router to do this, you just start a Browser and enter the Router Address, (maybe 10.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.1) in the URL bar at the top, where you would enter Apple.com. It should respond with the Router's login screen.


Log in as the Router Admin. The Router manual will show you what the default user_id and password are, if you have not changed them.


Your Router manual will show how to place the PPPoE User_name and password in your Router, and enable PPPoE, so that you never have to do this again. Your ISP can do this with you over the phone.


When that is done, your Router is now going to use PPPoE, and your computers are configured to just use DHCP.

Aug 18, 2012 5:58 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Hi Grant,


Got a different person at my ISP today, she says I have a dynamic IP address, so both my computers only need DHCP. We walked through my Windows machine network screen and it is definitely set up with just DHCP (just like the Mac). But she couldn't tell me why Windows was working and Mac wasn't. Which makes me wonder why the Apple shop told me to click on connect PPPoE!


She said when I took my Mac to the shop and both DHCP and PPPoE were showing as active, only the DHCP was needed and actually doing anything. And she couldn't tell me why I couldn't just take my Mac plus the router into the shop and get it set up there.


My UN and PW were 'admin', and I changed them long ago. Your instructions were identical to the router manual, but she couldn't tell me how to change them back to my chosen names if I followed those instructions. She also said a new router might fix the problem.


Everybody seems to have different ideas (in addition to the 2 sales pitches), and I'll admit that I'm concerned that if I re-set the router it might mess up Windows so it doesn't work either. So I'm frozen!

Aug 19, 2012 8:32 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks again. I clicked the minus sign, the PPPoE choice disappeared, I clicked Apply, now all I have left are Ethernet (connected), FireWire (not connected), AirPort (off). And it still doesn't work.


In looking at my Windows local area connection Support tab, it says 'Address Type: Assigned by DHCP', and then 3 addresses. No PPPoE to be seen. And it keeps working away.

Aug 21, 2012 2:07 PM in response to tioli

Grant - Talked to another ISP rep today, who gave me slightly different info from the others; I learned that my router/modem is set up with a PPPoE connection to the ISP, so that's why the 2 computers use DHCP. And they don't support the modem since they didn't sell it to me.


I got part way through the Mac network setup assistant, to the "I have a DHCP Client ID". Called her to find out that my Client ID was my email address. Clicked continue and it said "Unable to establish a network connection." But in fact it's already connected! My network screen says so.


She says the modem is working, the connection is working to both computers, the modem is set up right, so it must be a computer problem. I'm starting to agree.

Aug 21, 2012 3:06 PM in response to tioli

Your Router was already doing the "dirty work" for you. You do not use PPPoE on your Mac or PC, and you do not use a DHCP Client ID on your Mac or PC, because your Router is already set up to do that ugly part for you.


As far as your Mac is concerned, you have ONLY a Router that provides a DHCP connection for you, and the answers to all those other side issues are hidden from your Mac and your PC by the Router. The Router acts as you agent in dealing with every ugly detail having to do with the Internet.

Aug 21, 2012 4:20 PM in response to tioli

In the network setup assistant, when I get to "How do you connect?", I can choose either "I have a static IP" (which isn't correct), or "I have a DHCP Client ID". If I don't fill in an email, it stops, but if I do fill it in, I get the response above. So I can't get past that screen.


So if it worked at the Mac shop as soon as he plugged it in (which means the computer's fine after all), and I can't get past this screen, what else is there?

Aug 21, 2012 4:54 PM in response to tioli

I use a DSL modem to connect to the Internet


I use a cable modem to connect to the Internet


I connect to my Local Area Network


As soon as you have a Router, anything toward the Internet from the Router is ugly details only accessible from inside the Router. The Router establishes your own private Local Area Network, not visible from the Internet. So the correct answer is:


I connect to my Local Area Network

When you answer that question, you get a suggestion that you may be able to connect automatically. Try it.


If it does not work, DO NOT GO ON. Go back and wait one minute, then try again.

Aug 21, 2012 6:03 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks for all your patience... this one has to be one of your toughtest battles. When I selected the LAN and hit continue, it spent a minute 'configuring', then said it can't connect automatically, and took me to a page where it asked for 4 lines of IP details. Tried 3 times and it didn't work. And if I enter the details, it will be a static IP address (if it works at all), so I haven't tried it.

Aug 21, 2012 6:35 PM in response to tioli

If you have to enter a static IP to get it to configure, use the IP of your PC and add a small integer to the last digit (e.g, PC is 192.168.1.5, for the Mac enter manual IP 192.168.1.7 ).

Subnet Mask is almost always 255.255.255.0

Router Address will be the .1 of the range (e.g., if the PC is at 192.168.1.5, the Router will be at 192.168.1.1)

DNS: use OpenDNS for now:

208.67.222.222

208.67.220.220


Be sure to Apply Changes or close the Preference pane to lock it in. That should get you online.


Once you are sure that is working, you can try changing to DHCP and get an automatic address.

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