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Why does iMessage randomly send as text instead?

Group iMessage with all recipients using the correct settings. Receive at/caller id both set to email address, send as sms set to off. One of the members of the group will randomly have his blue iMessage input box turn green to text message. When this happens, his phone will instead send the message from his @mms.att.net text address to our email inbox. All of us have each others phone/email saved properly in the contact information as well. The group message on his phone looks unaffected minus the change from blue/green between iMessage and text message, but on the other hand the rest of us are getting our inboxes flooded with all of this messages via email. With the group set up through all contacts email addresses, and send as sms set to off by each recipient, the iMessage should ideally never turn green to text at any point. This has been tested with all members on 3G, and even with all of us at home on Wi-Fi as well. The only problems I've been able to find from searching seem to be when people don't have all of their settings correct. I've used one situation from tonight as an example, but it has been known to happen here and there with no explanation. Has anyone else experienced this yet?User uploaded fileUser uploaded fileUser uploaded file

iPhone 4, iOS 5.1.1

Posted on Aug 20, 2012 6:17 PM

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Aug 31, 2012 5:02 PM in response to XMasta19

I think it's because the receiver is actually on the phone. Try it with your group. Have one person of the group on a call with someone not in the group. Then send your group iMessage. Everyone should receive it as an iMessage except the one on the phone call. That one should receive as a green text message.


Just my own opinion on what's happening. It happens to me daily, too, but that's because my friend is always on the phone! Lol

Oct 8, 2012 8:38 PM in response to XMasta19

This has been a bug in iOS ever since iMessage was introduced. Despite having "Send as SMS" turned off, my phone will occasionally send texts (confirmed by viewing texting usage on AT&T). It is a problem with individual recipients for sure (I have not encountered it with group message, but I'm sure it still happens).


I have even observed a message change from blue to green AFTER sending. Being well aware of this issue, I am always very careful to ensure that the Send button is blue before sending (I generally make sure it's blue for a few seconds before clicking). One time, I sent an iMessage, went to Messages, and confirmed that it was "Delivered" as an iMessage. Later, I checked again and it had changed to green (text).


Annoying problem for sure!

Oct 8, 2012 8:45 PM in response to bonehed

Agreed! We actually had multiple users in group message notice that exact issue yesterday. Would change to green after sending an iMessage, but would go back to blue if you waited until someone else in the group responded. I had to deal with it for a few hours, always paying close attention to not send as a text message. Very frustrating, even more annoying...

Oct 12, 2012 10:57 AM in response to XMasta19

I have finally found the right topic area; I'm having the same issue, me and my friend were next to each other at dinner yesterday; We both have Imessaging on however the cell data was very poor over where we were eating; Now my Imessage setting is the same with SMS turned OFF if no cell data is picked up; So when I tried sending her something it was blue the whole time and I sent the message. The message wasn't fully sent so I thought ok good thing I have the setting on it WON'T send as a normal SMS. However after a while I noticed she finally got the message and it was sent as a text message. This doesn't make sense to me because I had turned off send as SMS under the imessage settings. So I am going through the same issue XMasta19.

Oct 12, 2012 11:19 AM in response to cyagl643

So I actually spoke with an Apple representative, and they said you have to have MMS off as well for this option to work. However the only downfall is u cannot send or receive MMS messages through your actual cell phone plan, which is pretty stupid. In other words, if you have both send as SMS off and MMS off, then the message that you send to another Imessage person will not send as a text at all, it will send as Imessage once you have cell data.

Oct 12, 2012 11:29 AM in response to cyagl643

I don't think that's true (that you need to have MMS off). I played around with it quite a bit in an area where data signal (E/3G) was weak. If "Send as SMS" is on, the iMessage will try to send for a while, will fail, and the message will be sent as text. If "Send as SMS" is off, you will get a little exclamation-point alert icon saying the delivery failed.


It may be that there's a bug requiring MMS to be turned off for "Send as SMS" to function 100% correctly, but 90% of the functionaly works as you would think (I think).

Nov 17, 2012 6:03 AM in response to XMasta19

Thank you for bringing up this question/problem. I too experience random iMessage to Text sending. My guess also is that whoever i'm sending to may have gone out of a good range to receive an iMessage format. Either way though, does iMessage pull from data regardless if you have a wifi signal or not? My texting is always high and a good 3/4 of people i talk to are all on an idevice.


Hope this gets cleared up, as it seems to be more common than we all realize.

Why does iMessage randomly send as text instead?

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