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Unchecked 'Copy' in prefs, uncheck 'Import as Keyword...:, too?

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Since I already have the media on the same drive as the Event, I don't want to copy the files to the Event, just optimize. But if I uncheck Copy shouldn't I uncheck Import as Keyword Collections, too? What happens if it is checked?


Also, I would like to test how FCPX works with one of my AVCHD files natively by not optimizing it. If neither Copy nor Optimize are checked what happens? Can I edit? Does FCPX simply 'point' to the file that is outside the Event? I imagine I probably need to copy to the event.

MacBook Pro 2.66 ghz, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Aug 21, 2012 12:03 PM

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Posted on Aug 21, 2012 12:54 PM

Unchek copy, if you do not want two copies, if you media is native it will not be optimized what ever you check

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Aug 21, 2012 2:56 PM in response to BenB

Ben!


Hey, hope all is swell. Thanks for the reply.


Y'know, it's odd. Not to quibble but the .mov file is slightly smaller than the .mts file. I thot optimized ProRes 422 would be 4x or so larger.

And Info says: "Codecs: H.264". Does that sound like 422, I thot they're something different, MPEG or somethin'? Is it possible they just give it a diferent 'sheath'? Sorry, forget the word.

Another thing is that the file name ends with "(id).mov". Does that mean anything or is that typical?


Anywho, interesting.


Dude!


Btw, love your videos re FCPX.

Aug 22, 2012 10:28 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Hey Tom! Thanks for the reply.


The original is AVCHD but "Info" doesn't give me much info except "Kind: MPEG Transport Stream".


I do find it curious that despite unchecking Copy and Optimize it still created an H.264 .mov file, and one slightly smaller than the .mts file. Any ideas why? I thot it would somehow simply point to such a file. Could it be some kind of proxy?

Aug 23, 2012 9:23 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

I think what was created was a proxy file, tho it certainly doesn't look low rez. I think so because ProRes is supposedly 4x bigger than regular, proxies 1/4 of Prores, essentially the same size as the original file. The files created in my original media despite no checking Copy or Optimize are approximately the same size as the originals, ie 1/4 ProRes. Ergo, they are proxy.


Question re Avid's DnxHD codec: Does it work with FCPX? Is it superior? When installed will FCPX recognize and give you that option?

Aug 23, 2012 10:12 AM in response to elmerlang

I don't know what files you're talking about. Maybe a screen shot or two would help. If you check optimize with H.264 files you will get ProRes files. They are in the original media folder. They are in a separate folder. You will have both H.264 files and ProRes files. If you don't check proxy, you won't get proxy, but you can believe whatever you want.


Avid codecs cannot be used for rendering or export.

Aug 23, 2012 11:24 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Thanks for the reply.

I don't check Optimize or Proxy in "Import from Camera".

I uncheck Copy in the Prefs.

I get .mov files in my Original Media folder, see attached. (The file of the woman is smaller than the .mts H.264 file.)

Why is it making these files? A puzzler.

What should I see and how should FCPX be handling this if I don't check Optimize or Proxy or Copy?


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Aug 23, 2012 11:59 AM in response to elmerlang

If you uncheck copy in import that only effects files that are imported not from a camera or a camera archive. If you import from a camera or archive, you don't have an option, the file has to be copied. Notice at the bottom of that list the files that were imported not from a camera or archive. They have aliases to the location of the original file. When the file is copied from the archive it is rewrapped to QuickTime. The file size will change depending on the content. It can vary in size depending on a bunch of factors. Open the file in the QT player and see what it says in the movie inspector.

Aug 23, 2012 12:26 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Now we're talking!! Excellent info!

I opened in QT, opened movie inspector, and took a screen shot. It's below. It's says Format is 'avc1'. What is that and is it a ProRes or other high quality format?

Is it worthy of editing in (I like the size)?

And the Current Size 1680x946, what does that indicate?


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This certainly seems easy to use, no oddities editing tho maybe I should bring in as ProRes file and do some fx and export just to compare the ease of use, render times and quality of export.

I've been watching movies and practicing the techniques, am really quite psyched to get into it.

Hey now!

Aug 23, 2012 4:34 PM in response to elmerlang

No, many people edit H.264. You render ing ProRes. You export ProRes. That's the same as optimizing and exporting ProRes. If you doing a lot of compositing, efects, and extreme color grading, or if your computer lacks processor power, optimizing might be better for you, at the expense of substantially more drive space.


avc1 is H.264 rewrapped into QuickTime and is effectively editing in the native video format using a different framework from the original MPEG-4 framework.

Unchecked 'Copy' in prefs, uncheck 'Import as Keyword...:, too?

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