HT1939: Resetting PMU on Power Mac G5, Power Mac G4, Power Macintosh G3
Learn about Resetting PMU on Power Mac G5, Power Mac G4, Power Macintosh G3
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Aug 23, 2012 9:57 AM in response to Grant Lenahanby BDAqua,★HelpfulHi Grant, seems several problems...
The thermal paste on the CPUs likely needs replacing after this length of time...
Can you count the beeps or flashes?
1 beep = no RAM installed
2 beeps = incompatible RAM types
3 beeps = no good banks
4 beeps = no good boot images in the boot ROM (and/or bad sys config block)
5 beeps = processor is not usable
In addition to the beeps, on some computers the power LED will flash a corresponding number of times plus one. The LED will repeat the sequence after approximately a 5-second pause. The tones are only played once.
Note: In this case, a flash is considered to be 1/4 second or 250 ms or greater in length.
If you're sure the RAM is good, try the Hair Dryer trick...
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=13240047#13240047
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15223603#15223603
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15499912#15499912
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15613068#15613068
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3270112
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16053892#16053892
No power light at all...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3692775?tstart=0
It can show on any G5, and even many other computers & electronic devices of the period.
http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/pmg5.html
http://lowendmac.com/ppc/power-macintosh-g5.html
And see this last one in particular...
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16781690#16781690
Heat gun better...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3916312?tstart=0
Might be time to replace the PRAM Battery, 4 years is close to their lifespan, far less if ever without AC power, & can cause strange startup problems...
See which one your G5 has...
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/CR2032/
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/BAA36VPRAM/
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Aug 23, 2012 10:16 AM in response to Grant Lenahanby Grant Lenahan,First, thank you very much for the lengthy and helpful reply. I'm leaving for the sirport shortly, so digging through it will take some time.
I can narrow a few things down. The RAM should be fine. Once i reset the PMU, the G5 boots properly and works. The fans even went to idle. And then, they started to roar and it shut off.
So its not a RAM-like syptom. I have heard about the thermal grease bit. I have tons of the stuff - any complexity removing the modulesnad the processors? I see some screws back there.
When i get back I will:
1. count beeps
2. read you many links
Thanks, again
Grant
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Aug 27, 2012 9:09 AM in response to BDAquaby Grant Lenahan,I am still interested in how to get the CPU modules out to re-seat and greae the chips to the heatsink.
On another note, i did soem more testing.
Upon turn on it frequently mits a number of beeps, does not boot, and the small white led on the front panel blinks. Upon power-off and re-start it boots normally (3/3 times).
Twice i counted the beeps:
1. 9 beeps (mostly sure)
2. 7 beeps (positive)
Anything that can be gleened from this?
Grant
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Aug 27, 2012 10:30 AM in response to Grant Lenahanby BDAqua,I am still interested in how to get the CPU modules out to re-seat and greae the chips to the heatsink.
I was hoping for japamac or one of the other experts to drop in with the best advice on this, let's wait & see on that point.
Might be time to replace the PRAM Battery, 4 years is close to their lifespan, far less if ever without AC power, & can cause strange startup problems...
See which one your G5 has...
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/CR2032/
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/BAA36VPRAM/
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Aug 27, 2012 10:41 AM in response to BDAquaby Grant Lenahan,I plan to replace the battery, but i must re-emphasize - i'm ntyo concerned with start up problems. I'm concerned with heat control issues - the unit cranks up the fans and ultimately goes wild and shuts down even when it is not even remotely hot. This is a known problem, its the solution part that's vague.
As to the battery - i will replace it if the machine is not toast. However, it measure 3.68V. There could be high internal reistance to be sure, but its not dead. Typically dead oens measure down around 3V no load. So i dont suspect that is the root cause, although it could influence the abilkity to re-learn adn store parameters.
Does anyone know what 7 and 9 beeps mean?
Does anyone knwo how to re-calibrate the temperature control / power control unit? I understand there's a non-existant program that Apple has.....etc.
Thanks again,
Grant
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Aug 27, 2012 1:55 PM in response to Grant Lenahanby BDAqua,Does anyone knwo how to re-calibrate the temperature control / power control unit?
If anybody had any clues, your email in your profile is not viewable except to you & apple of course.
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Aug 27, 2012 3:08 PM in response to BDAquaby Grant Lenahan,I dont follow your point....shouldn't answers imeply be posted here?
if you wish to reach me you may use gee-lenahan-at-vee-eff-email-dot-net
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Aug 27, 2012 4:13 PM in response to Grant Lenahanby BDAqua,I understand there's a non-existant program that Apple has.
Terms of use & such probably prevent anyone from posting a solution here, since those aren't for public use.