iphoto and aperture library file folder problem

Aperture works very well. It does not work the way you think it does.

Aperture is an image-manager. It replaces using file-managers to browse, edit, and export image-format files. You design your Library, using Folders, Albums, and Projects, to meet your storage, working, and retrieval needs. Once you have imported an image-format file into Aperture, you should never rename, move, or alter in any way except via Aperture that file.

You can leave your files in their current location when you import them. The above rule still applies.

Aperture features non-destructive editing. Your imported image-format files are _never_ altered (unless you go out of your way to change or add to their metadata).

Aperture is an excellent file manager for the image-files you import. If you delete an Image in Aperture, you can easily have Aperture delete the Referenced Original as well.

This is all complex -- on top of the conceptual hurdle users must clear when moving from a file-manager paradigm to an image-manager paradigm. I suggest playing with a test Library for a while until you get comfortable. You might peruse posts here in this forum which mention "image manage".

Aperture is not iTunes. It may be that iTunes suggests a good way for a program like Aperture to be organized, but that is not relevant (we are not designing softerware -- we are using software that has already been designed). Aperture exists the way it exists. If you use it, you commit to working with that, or else you will end with damaged data and tears.

Therefore your choice (as I see it) is:

- use Aperture, build your own storage and retrieval structures with the tools and containers provided, and ignore how Aperture uses the OS file system, or

- don't use Aperture.

Davide -- I'm sorry you haven't found my replies helpful. In the future, you might specify what you know and what your questions are. In this third post you have finally presented some information and worded one question in a way that can be answered. There are many excellent posters here -- perhaps one will pick up from here.

Good luck.

An empty folder uses no disk space. Those folder may not be empty, but amy contain hidden files. You're using a Managed Library. How the app is set up within that structure is, frankly, of no more concern than the colours of the wiring used in your car. If you don't like it, you know what to do...

platini76 wrote:

IN LIBRARY-FOLDER SEPARATE MODE (WITH NO COPY FILES)

Do you mean a Library that contains Images whose Originals are Referenced? (I don't know the Italian terms -- sorry.)

can I say to program when I delete or modify one picture to make this on original and not create many copy files?

No, you cannot tell Aperture how to work. It has a complex and well-developed working structure involving files, Originals, and Versions. This short "naming of the parts" I wrote may help you sort things out. Note that Aperture is designed from ground up to efficiently provide a non-destructive workflow. It really is quite brilliant the way it is structured, and the way that structure interacts with today's available hardware. Note, particularly, the paragraph on Versions. Note, too, that knowing details of this in no way impacts one's use of Aperture.

"Delete" and "Modify" are wholly unlike and should not be conflated. Is your question about deleting, or modifying?

IN LIBRARY UNITED MODE (WITH COPY FILE OPTION ACTIVE)

Do you mean a Library that contains Images whose Originals are Managed?

can I ask to system to organize files with named and comprehensible tree folders and to cancel folder when I delete it's photos?

No, you cannot tell Aperture how to work.

Here is what you can tell Aperture:

- where your images-format files are located

- whether, when importing image-format files into your Library, to leave them in place, to put a copy in the Library, or to move the file into the Library. These files are now "Originals".

- where to put your Originals. You can put them inside your Library, or on any drive locally mounted to your system. There are extensive organizing options when storing your Originals outside your Library.

- to make additional working copies of any Image in your Library (working copies are based on aliases, and take up insignificant storage space; Aperture calls these "Versions" {see my link above}).

- how to store and organize your working copies. You create a tree of Aperture Folders holding Projects and Albums. There are several kinds of Albums. You view and browse your "tree" of Image containers on the Library tab of the Inspector.

- to delete working copies

- to create new files based on your working copies (this is done by exporting your working copies; these new image-format files can then be used by other programs, posted on-line, emailed, etc.)

- to delete the last working copy. ("Delete" = move to the Aperture Trash. When you empty the Aperture Trash your Original (the file your imported) will be moved to the system trash if it is in the Library; if it is stored outside your Library, you will be asked whether you want to leave it be or move it to the system trash.

"(where?)"

Where you specify. Please see section 6 on this page (the User Manual is slightly out-of-date -- substitute "Original" for "Master"):

Choose a location for the imported files by doing one of the following:

• To store imported masters in the Aperture library: Choose “In the Aperture Library” from the Store Files pop-up menu.
• To store imported masters as referenced image files, audio files, or video files in their current location: Choose “In their current location” from the Store Files pop-up menu.
• To store imported masters as referenced image files, audio files, or video files in the Pictures folder on your hard disk: Choose Pictures from the Store Files pop-up menu, and then choose whether you want the files moved or copied to the Pictures folder by clicking the “Move files” or “Copy files” button.
• To store imported masters as referenced image files, audio files, or video files in a location other than the Pictures folder: Choose “Choose” from the Store Files pop-up menu and select a folder. In the dialog that appears, choose a location to store the imported masters, then click Open. Choose Project Name from the Subfolders pop-up menu to specify that the files be stored in a folder with the same name as the project. Choose whether you want the image files moved or copied to the new location by clicking the “Move files” or “Copy files” button.

" (are you sure? I don't find this option)"

I'm pretty sure. From

Deleting Images from the Browser

If you delete the last version in a version stack, Aperture asks whether you want to delete the master. If you confirm that you want to delete the master, the master is moved to the Aperture Trash.

When an image is represented in the Browser by a single version, you can select the version and delete it, and the corresponding master is deleted as well.

When you empty the Aperture Trash you should get a dialog box similar to this one. Note the field with the check box:

(Screenshot)

I want the original one is modified with the crop I have done.

Don't use Aperture. it will never ever edit your original file. It's designed to specifically never do that.

If I drag and drop it on my desktop it put only a low resolution copy...

That's your Aperture Preview. You can adjust the quality of that in the Previews.

But reading this thread, you need to spend sometime reading the manual and watching the tutorials because you've not understood what Aperture is for.