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  • saymay Level 1 (0 points)

    @IngeGil, No I haven't found a reasonable solution yet! Still hoping an Apple comes up with something fast!

  • LarryHN Level 9 (77,037 points)

    No - Unless you find a NAS that uses the required Mac OS extended (journaled) format (which I have not seen) or you put the iPhoto library on a sparce bundle (an absolutely critical step that you do not mention) then putting your iPhoto library on a NAS will not work and probably will cause data and possibly photo loss


    And it is likely that Crashplan will damage the iPhoto library by having it on an improperly formatted volume - before recommending it you need to absolutely verify that people using your suggestion do not cause major problems due to your  suggestion not only not working but actually causeing problems


    At this time no one has successfully tested a cloud backup that I have seen - and if one exists you still have the issues of the typical size of an iphoto library making restoration from the cloud unweildy at best and probably impossible in a usable time frame



  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,945 points)

    It is possible to use a NAS box to store your iPhoto library


    Just remember that Photo needs to have the Library sitting on disk formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Users with the Library sitting on disks otherwise formatted regularly report issues including, but not limited to, importing, saving edits and sharing the photos. Most NAS devices are not formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled).

  • jent74 Level 1 (0 points)

    Have you ever done a restore of your photos from Crashplan though?  How did it work?  I tried using google's backup services but could never successfully get my photos off after my hard drive was wiped.

  • LarryHN Level 9 (77,037 points)

    Just Cloud is a commercial cloud backup that is really a bait and switch scheme - stay away from just Cloud



  • innonate Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi @saymay and everyone else.


    I can't believe it's taken me this long to find this thread.


    A few years ago some entrepreneur friends and I were having this very issue and founded Picturelife.



    Picturelife has deep integrations with both iPhoto and Aperture. Not only does the data from each flow seamlessly into our system, but then also if/when you want to download everything we include the metadata in the format iPhoto needs to get back your information.


    Hope this is helpful!


    CEO - Picturelife


    “I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link."  <Edited by Host>

  • LarryHN Level 9 (77,037 points)

    Note for the future that the TOU advertising is not permitted (this IMHO is not advertising but is responsive to the OPs question) and if you have a financial interest in your suggestion you must disclose that


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    And your site looks interesting - I am away from my Mac but will try it out later



  • Marly Thomas1 Level 1 (10 points)

    So far none of the solutions provided address the real problem, our iPhoto libraries are growing bigger than our hard drives. 


    If you properly format and migrate your library to an external disk you can keep buying bigger disks, which is great for a desktop but ***** for a laptop. 


    If you properly format and migrate your library to a disk attached via the local network you will only have access to the library when you are on that network. 


    Sure, you can view items you intentionally keep in Photo stream, but you can't keep everything in there if you're running out of local disk.


    The backup offerings out there like crashplan and backblaze only back stuff up, you would have to restore it and re-import it into iPhoto to view it, losing any tags, faces, places or other metadata.


    The only real solution is "something" that virtualizes your iPhoto library across your local disk, a backup device in your network, and an archive location in the cloud.  IPhoto wouldn't be aware of all of this, only the "something".  The local disk would hold the iPhoto library metadata database and new and recently accessed files, the backup device would hold everything else.  Files would be migrated from local disk and backup disk based on a narrow set of rules you set, including % or Gb of space to use and last accessed file age.  The cloud destination would be something you pay a regular fee for to hold a copy of everything in case of disaster.


    If, while at home, you try to access an older file that has been migrated to secondary disk, it would pull it from your backup device on your network.

    If, while away from home, you try to access an older file that has been migrated to secondary disk, and you're connected to the internet, it will pull it temporarily from the cloud service.


    Things like this exist but only for large enterprise systems.

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,945 points)

    And none of these are possible with iPhoto (or Aperture, or Lightroom) as they are currently designed. None are designed for any kind of network access.

  • Marly Thomas1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I work at a company that makes a product that does this very thing for enterprise systems.  It works very well and is used by many video production shops who are mac based.  I'm trying to convince our company to get into the consumer market but so far no luck.

  • bborgerding Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you Nate!  Picturelife looks like just what I've been needing to find.

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,452 points)

    Is one able to backup an iPhoto library package and then retrieve it intact as one would from Time Machine?



  • Terence Devlin Level 10 (137,945 points)

    No it's just another web-based service like Flickr, SmugMug et al. Basically, you upload the Previews...

  • saymay Level 1 (0 points)

    Terrence, I am currently trying out the free version of picturelife, it seems to be backing up my entire library... It's not finished yet, however I am gathering this by the amount of space it's using.

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,452 points)

    When you're done try to recover it (don't overwrithe your working copy) and see if it's intact and working.  We'd like to know what you find.