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MBP Retina bad display on external Dell display

My MBPr LCD display is great: crisp and clear.

However, when I connect my desktop Dell display, the result is washed out and difficult to read fonts.


I've tried with both mini-DVI and mini-VGA. The mini-VGA is perhaps marginally better, but in both

cases is borderline unusable.

Any clues?


Thanks!

MacBook Pro with Retina display, Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Aug 28, 2012 8:52 PM

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Mar 2, 2013 6:19 PM in response to GreenAsJade

I bought an rMBP 13" 2.5GHz i5 w/8GB RAM. I have been won over to the mac environment gradually the last few years with first on iPod Touch, then iPhone 4, another iPhone 4, and 3 iPads. I have always had a difficult time changing fully to mac due to the software I need to use for work, etc. BUT with the ability to run Parallels I took the plunge. So far I am thrilled with the actual MBP, BUT customer services has been less than desired regarding issues like the one noted here. I have an HP 2311x monitor that is excellent when I use it with my windows laptop, but connected to the rMBP it is horrible for text. I can stream Netflix fine enough, but I really need this for text for the huge spreadsheets I use for my job. This is a huge problem. I called support and got the "it is an HP issue" response. HP does not provide drivers for Mac. What? from this forum and MANY others on the web I can see this is a HUGE issue for many people that has been on going for a long time. I have always avaoided the Apple brand due to the significant $ paid over equivalent equipment in the windows world, but the thought was that customer service was excellent and you really get what you pay for. Well, this is NOT what I paid for. I am seriously considering reversing direction and returning the rMBP. APPLE!!!!! Please address this external monitor issue.

Mar 4, 2013 3:23 PM in response to The King of Limbs

Sure, if you can point me in the right direction I'll be happy to send them the info. I would presume they already know about it (and that it's not a priority), but it wouldn't hurt.


I can almost guarantee that their solution would be the same. If you browse to the /System/Library/Displays/Overrides folder you might see that there are numerous EDID override files already in there to cater for different monitors.


But as I said before, I completely understand your reluctance. It's something that you shouldn't have to do, and so the fix ought to be demanded of Apple.

Mar 4, 2013 4:47 PM in response to heycoach

Thanks. I wish I knew how to contact the people "in the know" at Apple. Before I returned my new MBP, I wasted two weeks trying to find them. I got really tired of hearing all the excuses along the way.


Maybe Apple will fix this eventually. Not just for the HP displays I use at work, but for all the other displays I have need to use when I am on the road. I would hate to have to execute the script and go through the steps every time I connect to an external display.


Thanks for the link to the patch. I just wish Apple would fix its defective OS.

Apr 8, 2013 5:54 AM in response to GreenAsJade

Hello all -


I just bought Macbook 15'' retina and connected it to my HP LP2475W monitor through HDMI; result is horrible (text difficult to read at native resolution 1920x1200).

I use extended desktop, I have tried applying the EDID patch but did not help - Any other idea ?


I had no problem connecting the monitor to my previous PacBook Pro (mid 2010) through DP/DVI adaptor. Odd that upgrading my Mac creates some problems ...


Any idea welcome


Thanks


Olivier

Apr 8, 2013 7:27 AM in response to odelfo

A follow up -


I have eventually discovered that my old Dipslay Port --> DVI adapter was fitting into thunderbolt port on the new MBP and guess what : crystal clear display on the external monitor through DVI input. Seems that problem is linked to HDMI


I hope this will help others (the adapter is the basic Apple Mini Display Port to DVI)


Thanks


Olivier

Jul 30, 2013 3:06 PM in response to Constans337

I've found a solution to this. I tried all the suggestions above and elsewhere and none worked. By accident I selected "best for macbook" rather than "best for external monitor" on the settings screen one day and I got much sharper fonts. Not sure if this is tied to the OS update a couple of months back, or it was always a viable solution. Any way, worth a try if you haven't already.

Jan 30, 2014 1:22 PM in response to GreenAsJade

When I had exactly the same problem (fuzzy HDMI display even with correct resolution), the problem was that the MacBook Pro was assuming that the monitor was a television, so it was using the "underscan" feature to map the 1920x1080 display into a smaller number of pixels on the actual display.


Apparently some/many televisions are set up so that the outermost couple of rows and columns are not visible, so the MacBook Pro "shrinks" the display by default to avoid losing this stuff around the edges. Unfortunately mapping a 1920x1080 display to (for example) the innermost 1840x1000 pixels results in terribly blurry text.


So look in the Display Preferences dialog for an "underscan" slider and adjust it to "off". This should only apply to HDMI displays. Most recent televisions based on LCD or Plasma technology don't "overscan" significantly anyway, so there is seldom a need to "underscan" as a correction.


For a few more words, see http://www.themacfaq.com/2010/11/11/understand-overscan-and-underscan/

Mar 14, 2014 9:07 PM in response to GreenAsJade

I had a very similar problem connecting my MBPr to a Dell U2410 monitor using an HDMI cable. The image quality on the Dell looked terrible and grainy, kind of like a really bad jpg image. I fixed the problem by changing the Sharpness setting in the monitor menu. Sharpness was set to 50 and then once I set it to 0 it looked perfect (which is to say still not nearly as nice as the retina display!).


For a Dell U2410 and probably other Dells, the Sharpness setting was found in the menu under:


Menu -> Display Settings --> Sharpness

MBP Retina bad display on external Dell display

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