Arnie Dashit

Q: Time Machine only backing up Users folder

Since upgrding to Mountain Lion my Time Machine is now only backing up my ~/users/ folders and not the whole hard drive like it used to.

 

Nothing is excluded in Time Machine settings.

 

Has anybody else got this same scenario? I'm wondering if it's an isseu on my MacBook or if it's by design with Mountain Lion.

 

Hopefully it's not by design as none of my Application Preferences and other files in Library are being backed up

Posted on Aug 30, 2012 3:05 AM

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  • by verdi1987,

    verdi1987 verdi1987 Sep 7, 2012 11:53 AM in response to Arnie Dashit
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    Sep 7, 2012 11:53 AM in response to Arnie Dashit

    This only just started happening to me. I've been trying to troubleshoot it all morning. I noticed that only my user data was being backed up, but it only stopped backing up system files around August 30.

     

    It was working fine in 10.8 (upgraded from 10.7.x) and for a week under 10.8.1, so I don't think it's related to 10.8.1.

     

    I deleted all backups of the system drive from within Time Machine (which took a very, very long time to complete -- with no status indicators) and then added and removed the system drive from the exclusion list in an attempt to retrigger a backup, but it still is not backing up any system data.

     

    I'm going to try completely resetting Time Machine.

  • by Arnie Dashit,

    Arnie Dashit Arnie Dashit Sep 7, 2012 12:11 PM in response to verdi1987
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    Sep 7, 2012 12:11 PM in response to verdi1987

    Just yesterday I fixed my problem, yours may probably be the same...

     

    Delete the file com.apple.timemachine from your ~/users/yourName/Library/Preferences and then set Timemachine up again.

     

    Something was wrong with the preferences file

  • by verdi1987,

    verdi1987 verdi1987 Sep 7, 2012 12:18 PM in response to Arnie Dashit
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    Sep 7, 2012 12:18 PM in response to Arnie Dashit

    Thanks. In that .plist, under ExcludeByPath, all of my system folders are listed. Weird. It's a mystery how they got added. I didn't add them, and they aren't in the exclusion list.

  • by Arnie Dashit,

    Arnie Dashit Arnie Dashit Sep 7, 2012 12:20 PM in response to verdi1987
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    Sep 7, 2012 12:20 PM in response to verdi1987

    I wonder if its been a quiet sneaky change by Apple and we are the first ones to notice it?

  • by verdi1987,

    verdi1987 verdi1987 Sep 7, 2012 12:23 PM in response to Arnie Dashit
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    Sep 7, 2012 12:23 PM in response to Arnie Dashit

    I'll check my other Mac later to see if that one changed as well.

  • by verdi1987,

    verdi1987 verdi1987 Sep 8, 2012 10:09 AM in response to verdi1987
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    Sep 8, 2012 10:09 AM in response to verdi1987

    My other Mac was fine, but comparing the com.apple.TimeMachine.plist files of the two machines reveals something interesting.

     

    On the problematic Mac (Mac #1), before I deleted the .plist, all of the system paths (/Applications, /Library, etc.) somehow got added to ExcludeByPath on or around August 30. After deleting the .plist and starting fresh, the ExcludeByPath key and values are gone, as is expected.

     

    But on Mac #2 (the Mac with no Time Machine problem), those exact same paths that were under ExcludeByPath on Mac #1 are specifically enumerated under IncludeByPath, whereas they are not specifically listed after starting fresh on Mac #1. (It's possible these existed on Mac #2 before my upgrade to 10.8.)

     

    If the system paths were enumerated under IncludeByPath on Mac #1 prior to starting fresh, either the system, Time Machine, or another app changed IncludeByPath to ExcludeByPath. I cannot verify if IncludeByPath was in Mac #1's .plist because I no longer have the historical data.

     

    In summary:

     

    Mac #1 (Mac that stopped archiving system files):

    • .plist contained system paths under ExcludeByPath
    • after deleting .plist and resetting Time Machine, .plist no longer contains ExcludeByPath
    • before and after resetting TM, IncludeByPath was/is absent

     

    Mac #2 (Mac with no TM issue):

    • system paths specifically listed under IncludeByPath
  • by Gilby101,

    Gilby101 Gilby101 Dec 7, 2012 7:21 PM in response to verdi1987
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    Dec 7, 2012 7:21 PM in response to verdi1987

    You have not gone mad!  I have the same problem.  See my posts of today in https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4557740

  • by Király,

    Király Király Sep 2, 2013 7:53 AM in response to Arnie Dashit
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    Sep 2, 2013 7:53 AM in response to Arnie Dashit

    I had the same problem.

     

    In my case, it was the com.apple.TimeMachine.plist file in /Library/Preferences, and not /Users/Me/Library/Preferences, that was causing the problem. Deleting it fixed the problem.

  • by Pondini,

    Pondini Pondini Sep 2, 2013 4:20 PM in response to Arnie Dashit
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    Sep 2, 2013 4:20 PM in response to Arnie Dashit

    Yes, a known bug.  See #D10 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting.

     

    We're trying to get as many reports to Apple as possible, so if you can, please do so and, if you don't mind, send me the Bug Report Number or Apple Care Case Number as noted in the blue box on the Running the diagnostics link there.

  • by J Boreham,

    J Boreham J Boreham Sep 24, 2013 1:49 AM in response to Pondini
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    Sep 24, 2013 1:49 AM in response to Pondini

    I reported an Apple case for this very issue back in July. I reset the Time Capsule and have done a couple of successful, full backup's since but i just checked my most recent back up and it's only the users folder.

     

    I've got the case number so i'll do the diagnostic's steps and send you the details over later

     

    Last time this happened i lost 3 months worth of data when i tried to do a restore!

  • by Warrren Anderson,

    Warrren Anderson Warrren Anderson Sep 12, 2016 9:09 AM in response to Arnie Dashit
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:09 AM in response to Arnie Dashit

    I have a similar problem. When I try to restore anything, Time machine opens my user folder and apparently won't let me restore anything not in the my user sub-directories. I can't figure out how to access the Time Machine preferences to try to fix it. The only option I can find is by accessing Time Machine via my System Preferences and there is one option: exclude the external drive that has my Time Machine backup. Trying the OS X help menu, I can't find anything about Time machine preferences.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Sep 12, 2016 9:37 AM in response to Warrren Anderson
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:37 AM in response to Warrren Anderson

    You might want to consider starting a new discussion. Since this one is a couple of years old, less people are likely to look at it. A new post would be much more visible. You can link to this one.

     

    Start with A4 in the 1st linked article.

     

    Time Machine Troubleshooting

     

    Time Machine Troubleshooting Problems


     

    Troubleshooting backup issues

  • by Warrren Anderson,

    Warrren Anderson Warrren Anderson Sep 12, 2016 9:54 AM in response to Eric Root
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:54 AM in response to Eric Root

    A4 instructs me to go to the Time Machine preferences pane. If there is one, I can't find it. Also there's no Time Machine folder in my user-> libraries.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Sep 12, 2016 12:33 PM in response to Warrren Anderson
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    Sep 12, 2016 12:33 PM in response to Warrren Anderson

    The Time Machine preferences pane is in System Preferences.

     

    It isn't a Time Machine folder. Go to the Preferences folder and look for the Time Machine .plist.

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