Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2012 11:53 AM (in response to Jason Britski)
Awesome. Thanks Jason! I'll grab the GeForce GTX card that you have and see if that is the remedy. I'll report back to this thread if thats the case. I'm running a Mac Pro 3,1 and 16GB of RAM. Not sure if those would be the culprits compared to the video card but possibly.
So just to confirm. In the viewer and canvas window [not video out viewing monitor], you do not see any type of banding or image tear when a camera pans or subject moves from right to left or camera shakes from right to left?
On my end this happens with every type of media, be it 35mm film telecine Apple ProRes data files, RED transcodes, Uncompressed 10-bit SD footage, etc etc etc...
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2012 12:10 PM (in response to Christopher Sims)
usually those cards are on ebay if you cant find one.
might be newer ones that work well, but I am not sure about that.
this card was recommended to me highly & i have had no issues over the past year with it.
got mine on ebay as well.
to confirm I do not see this tearing or banding with pans & movement - using ProRes standard, ProRes HQ, XDCAM, and 10 bit uncompressed SD NTSC footage in different projects right now.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2012 3:31 PM (in response to Jason Britski)
Just installed ... experiencing same exact issue. Seems a little better than with the 5870 card but banding is definately still there. I wonder if it's my display? I have an old 30 inch Cinema Display from Apple. What display are you running?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 19, 2012 11:33 PM (in response to Christopher Sims)
unless I missed something earlier in this thread, why not get a video io card like an aja or blackmagic card and monitor on a real video monitor if the banding while editing is bothering you? The BM Intesnity Pro is only abou $200.00 and works great.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 20, 2012 9:03 AM (in response to Christopher Sims)
2 cheap Acer monitors & a Sony HDTV connected to the matrox mini
not getting the banding for any of the above
when you talked to Apple & they confirmed this was known to them did they give any specifics as to what the main issue was? ie. graphics card, etc?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 20, 2012 10:26 AM (in response to Jason Britski)
Michael ... I dont edit in that way. Never have. Been cutting for over a decade on computer monitors then doing final viewing on external monitors.
Jason ... Apple said that FCP 7 is not officially compatible with Mountain Lion, only FCPX is. The FCP tech stated that banding is most likely a graphics card/system issue. He said that Mountain's code must display graphics differently than in Lion or Snow Leopard, since both 10.6 and 10.7 are fine.
I've tried 5 graphics cards so far. All do not fix the issue. So I dont even think the graphics card is the issue. I just think its software. Maybe I have some weird kernal that Jason doesnt have or my machine is a little older and the board translates graphics differently. My machine is the 3,1 tower.
I think the best bet is to just migrate back to Lion somehow. Thanks guys!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2012 4:13 AM (in response to Christopher Sims)
I have exactly the same issue in 10.8.2 / FCP 6.0.6 / Radeon 5770.
Would be great if this could be solved.
By the way - in other forums it is obvious that really a lot of users are experiencing this problem.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2012 11:26 AM (in response to Hirapuri)
So, it's starting to look like Mac OS X Lion 10.7 may be the newest OS that Final Cut Studio can run as expected under. I suppose we all knew this day was coming.
What's that web site for fundraising? Kickstarter? I wonder if we FCP 6 and 7 users who have no desire to switch to anything else could raise enough cash to hire some coders to make what would have been FCP 8?
That, or learn to edit with our eyes closed. (That's supposed to be funny, but why is it bringing a tear to my eye?).
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2012 10:26 PM (in response to Christopher Sims)
I have this problem too on my MacBook Pro Retina. I've just been dealing with it so far (not to mention the fact that FCP doesn't and will never take advantage of the retina display) but it's really frustrating. I'll be keeping my eye out for a solution.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 23, 2012 12:25 AM (in response to behindTHEscenes5)
Just bought and installed the modded GTX 570 card from macvidcards on eBay ... still slight banding but this is the best card yet. VERY tight and snappy.
Also, been researching a bit on http://netkas.org ... I wonder if there is a tech GURU on that forum who can help us editor guys on 10.8.2 running FCP 7? I'll try to poke around.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 26, 2012 11:45 AM (in response to Christopher Sims)
Here is a good article explaining this exact issue in WIKI ...
The artifact occurs when the video feed to the device isn't in sync with the display's refresh. This can be due to non-matching refresh rates—in which case the tear line moves as the phase difference changes (with speed proportional to difference of frame rates). It can also occur simply from lack of sync between two equal frame rates, in which case the tear line is at a fixed location that corresponds to the phase difference. During video motion, screen tearing creates a torn look as edges of objects (such as a wall or a tree) fail to line up.
Tearing can occur with most common display technologies and video cards, and is most noticeable in horizontally-moving visuals, such as in slow camera pans in a movie, or classic side-scrolling video games.