MacBook Pro loses access to 1 memory slot upon shutdown or reboot in OS X 10.8.1

I have had 4GB of RAM in my mid-2009 13-inch MacBook Pro since a few weeks after purchasing it in 2009. Until a couple of weeks ago, this machine has been running OS X 10.6.8 with no RAM issues. I wanted to wait for 10.8.1 before doing a clean install of Mountain Lion on this MacBook So, the day that 10.8.1 was released to the App Store I immediately purchased and downloaded the new OS. I then performed a clean install of the OS, got all my software setup, and all was right with my MacBook.


However, over the next week I noticed upon startup or reboot of the machine everything felt sluggish. I opened the activity monitor and clicked on the system memory tab, it showed 2GB. I immediately clicked on the About This Mac button to see how much RAM was installed, it showed only one 2GB stick installed (the other memory slot was empty). The next option I chose was to restart the computer. Upon startup it still only showed one 2GB stick. Next, I shutdown the computer, opened the back cover, and proceeded to remove both 2GB sticks of memory. I blew out the slots with compressed air, swapped the positions of each stick and reseated the memory.


I started up the computer and to my pleasant surprise both memory slots were recognizing 2GB each (4GB total). I thought this had permanently resolved the issue, but unfortunately after every shutdown or reboot my MacBook (without fail) loses access to the second memory slot, unless I remove and reseat the memory.


This problem did not start until after installing 10.8.1. I have tried countless SMC and PRAM resets. Please help.

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.1), 13-inch, Mid 2009, 4GB RAM, 500GB

Posted on Sep 3, 2012 10:12 AM

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Sep 4, 2012 4:58 PM in response to Shootist007

This didn't happen to me until I upgraded back to Lion the second time. I went from Lion back to a clean install of Snow Leopard back to Lion and then I had the problem with it not waking from sleep. The first instance with Lion I had no problems. So I decided to go back and do another install of Snow Leopard and the problem stayed with me. I am now on 10.8.1 and the problem remains the same.


I have, kind of, solved the sleep problems by putting hibernatemode at 25. This has allowed me to wake the computer up without a hard reset, but when I do wake it up it makes that hard drive spinning noise twice, almost as if it is waking up twice. Then, back to 2gb unless I reset the ram. I am going to take the case off tomorrow and just make sure everything is ok in there, but other than that I am just hoping it's not the logic board as my computer is a few years old now. I may also just throw a 4gb into the one thats working.


Memtest has found no problems either, both with 2gb and 4gb showing.


Thanks for the help everyone, this is really driving me nuts and answers are hard to come by.

Sep 4, 2012 5:08 PM in response to drjingles31

Sorry I have no idea about your waking problems but I don't think it is related in any way to the OPs problem.


Simple fact is RAM is hardware. It is either good or bad, it either shows up or it doesn't. There is No software involved with the detection of the amount of RAM in the system. The Hardware in the system is recorded by and reported to the OS by the firmware and the System Management Controller. No operating system or change in it will change the state of whether or not the hardware is recorded and reported.


So that leaves the SMC which I guess could go bad in some way. But then if it did the only way to fix it would be to change out the Logic board. The same for a bad RAM slot and or bad slot to Logic board connection.

Sep 4, 2012 5:23 PM in response to drjingles31

Simple tests.


1) Take an external and make multiple partitions on it. Install all version of OS X that you have access to and will lrun on your model Mac each in there own partition on the external. Run all of them one after the other then boot back into the OS on the internal. Does all the RAM show in one and not the other?


2) When the system is reporting only RAM from one slot run the Apple Hardware Test, either from DVD disc supplied with the system or from over the internet. That will take all inbstalled versions of OS X out of the picture.


As to the person that stated Apple change both RAM and Logic board and the problem continued. Apple probably changed one and not the other. Or that person is flat out lying. ( Oh I forgot no one lies on the Internet).


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Nov 9, 2012 11:00 AM in response to s.j.richardson

Just wanted to share an update on my MacBook's RAM problem...


-- I have found that if I reseat the RAM and restart the computer I will have access to all 4 GB of memory.


-- If I do NOT put the computer to sleep (close the lid), I am able to restart the computer and STILL have all 4GB of RAM (consistent results every time), however if the computer is put to sleep even once prior to a restart it will lose access to one memory slot (happens every time).


-- A friend upgraded the RAM in his Mac (same model MacBook that I have), so just to eliminate the possibility of bad RAM, I used his old RAM (2x2GB Apple RAM) in my Mac... same problem, no change in my Mac.



I have not had the time to try out Snow Leopard again to see if the problem persists in that OS, but prior to the release of Mountain Lion, Snow Leopard was the OS I was running on this MacBook... and I never had a problem with the memory slots until the day I performed a clean install of OS X 10.8.1 (I waited until the first update to hopefully avoid any early bugs).

Feb 10, 2013 1:13 PM in response to ppseprus

I just wanted to comment that I have a Mid 2009 MacBook Pro 13" and I have had a similar issue. I think that the PRAM reset fixed the sleep issue, and currently I am actually on 10.8.2, not 10.8.1.


Anyways, to get to my point, I have a bootcamp partition on my harddisk... interestingly, on the bookcamp partition (running Windows 7 Ulti) it ALWAYS recognizes all 8GB of RAM, not just the 4GB in one slot, and the performance clearly shows that there are 8GB of RAM running on the W7 side of the computer, not 4GB. Occasionally (not all the time for some reason) with a PRAM reset I can get OSX 10.8.2 to run with all 8GB of RAM (and it certainly runs as though on 8GB as opposed to 4GB), but this is rare and once the computer is restarted the RAM is back to only 4GB.


Again, despite the issue with the RAM in 10.8.2, when booted to Windows 7 on the SAME computer, I have all fully-functioning 8GB RAM.


I'm going to say that this is probably not a Logicboard error, but an OS error instead. I wish I knew how to fix this, or better yet, that Apple would patch it!

Feb 10, 2013 8:32 PM in response to s.j.richardson

Final update (probably), I bought a new 4GB stick of RAM and installed it in the consistently working slot (the top one)... I now always have access to 4GB of RAM all of the time (yea!).


However, the macbook was still not able to resume from sleep consistently... When lid was raised nothing would be on black screen, no back-light... sleep light (white LED on front) does stop blinking and fans spin up... but nothing else. So, I have sort of remedied this by enabling "deep sleep", where the current session data is written to the HDD instead of the RAM.


pmset -g | grep hibernatemode --> (as admin input this to see the current sleep mode of your mac)


sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 25 --> (as admin input this to switch your mac to "deep sleep")


sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 3 --> (as admin input this to switch your mac back to "regular sleep")



(note: mode 3 is default for supported portable macs; mode 0 is default for supported desktops)



Best of luck to everyone with this problem.

Feb 17, 2013 10:52 AM in response to ppseprus

Sorry I don't, but I believe they have replacement parts for that. Otherwise, u may have jerryrig the the memory in space so it doesn't move.


In retrospect, I don't even think you have to remove the ram, just LOOSEN the 4 screws around the Ram holder. Don't take them out.


I hope this works for everyone. As of this morning, I have a full 8 gb and it feels great. Normally at room temperature, i get 4 gb everytime i start up.

Feb 25, 2013 10:23 AM in response to quadturbo

I have a mid 2009 15" Mac Book Pro. After I installed 10.7 it was running very slow so I purchased 4+4 RAM and installed it about 6 months ago. It worked great... for a while. Then it wouldn't recognized one bank of the 4 GB RAM (purchased from Apple). Living in Northern CA I have no authorized Apple repair options so I took it upon myself to figure this out. I have to say that by removing and replacing both 4GB RAM into the RAM banks, lossening the screws that hold the bank in place, and restarting my computer, it now recognizes all 8 GB of RAM. My fingers are crossed this is the DEFINITIVE fix that quadturbo suggests. THANK YOU!

Feb 25, 2013 8:52 PM in response to patriciafromredding

Thanks Patricia, I'm glad this is working out for you. As far as my computer goes, it has been reading all 8 gb of RAM no matter how many times I restart, even after running graphic intensive applications (heating the macbook up quite a bit).


Just to add a little to the above tutorial, I would advise loosening all 4 screw by about 1/2 a millimeter. If you look carefully, there are these tiny "gold rods" that stick straight out and retract when you push on them. The screws should not exceed those rod's length.


I have asked some hardware design engineers, and they don't seem surprised that this is happening to my 3 year old beloved macbook pro. The heat is DEFINITELY an issue (see my above post) and hence the new macbook design with soldered ram. But they gave me a bunch reasons, warping circuit board, solder melting and loosening contact, etc. I really have no idea why loosening the screws work aside from the fact that it may allow the circuit board to expand.


I hope this fix is more less definitive until the computer really just dies.

Mar 9, 2013 7:52 PM in response to quadturbo

Looking good so far - your advice is the first that I've found that suggests a solution with good reasoning behind it and, so far, looks like solving my problem. *Thank you*.


I have a mid-2009 13" MacBook Pro which has manifested:

• sproadic video corruption - nothing debilitating, just a temporary visual glitch

• Bank 1 of my RAM flaking and refusing to recognise known good memory

• the 'black screen of death' - return to the user login window, sleep the Mac, reawaken to find a black screen that nothing short of a hard reboot will solve


So far, so good…

Mar 14, 2013 5:31 PM in response to s.j.richardson

I've recently had the same problem with my mid-2009 13" MacBook Pro. Top slot works fine, bottom slot doesn't. Often fails to wake from sleep with both slots filled due to detecting/loosing bottom slot after being moved around.


I'll try the fix with loosening the screws this weekend and report back. Makes sense that heat could cause an issue over time. These things run hot. So glad I found this thread. Should save me hours of troubleshooting.

Oct 24, 2013 11:06 AM in response to quadturbo

Hi


I cannot believe that so many people have had the same issues with the same computers and apple have not made people aware of it. I have taken my computer to 3 "geniuses" and none of them were able to help. They said replace case as it may be magnets, and said it was error in sleep file etc etc.


I have tried to do this and it seemed to work for a day. The next day.... as i had ordered new ram before i found your post, i upgraded to 2 new 4gb ram so i switched them. When i first switched on it recognised all 8gb but now it is only recognising 4 and it has done a shutdown after waking from sleep mode twice. Do other peoples also do shutdowns / start up when they open up after sleep?


Just after any insights as to what i may have done wrong.... Do you think the screws may be too loose? or not enough? Any advice from others that have succeeded would be appreciated just to reduce my trial and error time!


I am so glad for this post and effort mad eby people as i was searching apple for what computer to replace my beloved 17" with when i looked this up, will hopefully delay the expentiture for a while.

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