Save as in TextEdit?

Thanks, Kurt - helpful but would be so much easier to see it back in the menu.

That's the whole point of the outline. Save As… returns to its traditional spot in the menus of all apps and works with the normal Command+Shift+S keystroke instead of having to add the Option key.

TextEdit is no longer the wonderful simple program it used to be,

You can change that, too. It's what I do on every Mac we use.

1) Create a folder named Applications in your user account.

2) Copy TextEdit from Snow Leopard into this new folder.

3) Use Terminal to delete the version of TextEdit that comes with Lion or later from the root Applications folder. You can also open the Get Info dialogue on it and change all permissions to Read/Write. Then you can put the newer version of TextEdit in the trash from the desktop without the OS telling you it's "required".

Since a version of TextEdit will still exist (in your user account), there's no need to change file associations. The reason for putting it in your user account is permissions. If you were to put it in the normal Applications folder, doing a Repair Permissions in Lion or later will destroy SL's versions of TextEdit, and you'll have to retrieve it from SL again. Repair Permissions doesn't do anything to user accounts, so it will remain untouched there. The SL version of TextEdit has no idea what versions or autosave is, so will behave as you're used to. That is, saving changes only when you tell it to.

Terminal.app If you are comfortable using Terminal.app, you can add a different keyboard shortcut this with one simple line. First, quit all your apps except Finder and Terminal. Then paste this command (as one line) into Terminal.app (and press Return):

That's it!

Exactly how I feel. Drives me crazy. All I want is a standard text editor with standard features. First I had to hunt around to just save in plain text. Then, instead of the universal "Save as" we now have "Duplicate" and unless you look for help or read the documentation, the method for saving as via "Duplicate" is unclear at best. Apple seems to insist on being different whether it's useful to be different or not. Standardization is actually useful for human interfaces.

It only somewhat works, which is why I don't suggest that Terminal command. Open an image in Preview. Save As… will have disappeared from Preview. The only commands in the menu to save any file will be Save or Export.

At least, that's how the command used to affect Preview.

I recommend that Apple allow the user to adjust menu operations using "preferences". I would love a global method of setting what menus have in them. Even using the terminal app would be okay for setting "global menu preferences". I dislike losing "Save As" as a standard menu item.

99guspuppet aka Gus Calabrese in Denver

Except it will save/overwrite the original file when you do duplicate and save!

So you can't really do save as, because you loose the original file!

I just lost a file that I can't recover, ever, because of this idiotic, un-intuitive change.

Edit: Oh, nevermind, File -> Revert to... has previous versions saved there, in case you are in the same situation.

But guess what? If you revert your original file to a previous state, the file you "Save as"ed with the new content,

The new file,

The file that has no relation to the original file at all, other than you copied it at some point and filled it with different text completely,

Ready for this?,

GETS OVERWRITTEN as well, by the recovered version!

Haha what a joke.

Select Duplicate in the File menu. Now select Save for the duplicate.

To better deal with Versions and AutoSave: OS X Lion- About Auto Save and Versions.

Read here.

You are welcome to your opinion, although it's not a well-informed opinion.

Actually, I was wrong. It does now open in the old version as a default. Happy days.

I'm using Mavericks and "Save As" appears in the File menu when you hold down the alt key (⌥). It replaces the "Duplicate" option. Or you can use the keyboard shortcut: alt-shift-command-S (⌥ ⇧ ⌘ S)

Thank you. Worked like a charm.

I tested preview and still had Save As I've had zero problems since the cmd was eliminated.