7 Replies Latest reply: Sep 13, 2012 7:10 AM by PeterHess
esuarkemorej Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Why do I want an update that diminishes the functionality of Java?

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (169,830 points)

    Perhaps to keep some malicious programmer from hacking your system?

  • esuarkemorej Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Perhaps, or perhaps not.  Clear communication from Apple would help with details like this.  If this is so, why doesn't Apple say so?  The main thing Apple tells me is that Java's functions will be deminished, or shut off.  At least that's what it looks like to me, and I've been using Apple for decades. 

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (169,830 points)

    What clearer communication or more detail would you need than this information and the referenced security information from Oracle?

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5368

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5473

     

    And it's not "diminishing the functionality of Java". All it's doing is not loading Java applets by default to reduce the vulnerabilty for those many users who do not use Java and don't even know what it is. You can just click on the relevant Java applet to run it if you need it.

     

    Message was edited by: varjak paw

  • esuarkemorej Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I don't agree, but it's not worth arguing about.  The second link you provide is not referenced in the message I get from Apple, but it should be - and I should not have to hunt for it. 

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (169,830 points)

    The second article is referenced from the first one, which in the clearly-visible link for additional security information leads to a list of articles about a number of security updates from which you can get details about this and a number of other updates. No hunting involved; at least I found it in seconds, with two mouse clicks.

     

    Whether you consider having to click on a Java applet to run it is "diminishing functionality" is of course your call. I for one would much rather not have a web site contain a malicious Java applet that just runs when I load the page whether I want it to or am even aware that the applet is embedded.

     

    'nuff said.

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (45,645 points)

    it's not worth arguing about

    At least you got that bit right.

  • PeterHess Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The KB says:

    'Java applets may be re-enabled by clicking the region labeled "Inactive plug-in" on a web page.'

    I don't see that. 

    Even with Java turned off in Safari, when I go to a Java-enabled web page, I still don't see it.