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  • techmag Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Read your post - got up and headed straight to apple store - grabbed a 5770 and installed it.

     

    Beat the crap out of my system.

     

    Ran three YouTube vidoes full screen - one on each monitor.

     

    Added Netflix to the mix.

     

    Placed the videos on the cracks between the monitors. Moved the web browser windows around mercilessly between monitors. Opened all my "social presense" sites (these are ussualy the last things I visit just before a crash). Ran iTunes. Ran all kinds of Ajax enabled (html5-ish) activity.

     

    No crash...

     

    Rebooted and *** - my monitors are all in the correct order? Wow - I could get used to that

     

    Been almost 24 hours crash free. Can't prove this is a *fix* but now I'm starting to feel like I don't need to tip-toe through my work day anymore. Given that I was up to a 6 crash a day habit this is startng to feel very very good.

     

    Last night's reboot might have been the first reboot that I actually initiated since January...

     

    I did pick up one comment in the forum - increasing frequency of crashes. Hmmm - why would anything increas in frequency? I ran disk repair and yes there was damage - to be expected with ANY crash so I highly recommend that any of you suffering form this **** also check and repair disks/permissions etc.

     

    So if I crash you'll be the second to know but this is starting to feel like this problem is in my rear view mirror.

     

    Thank you Grant.

     

    Only comment I have is the new card is a tad noisier. Not the end fo the world but I did love the almost silience of my previous hardware config.

     

    My OLD configuration:

     

    Hardware Overview:

     

     

      Model Name:          Mac Pro

      Model Identifier:          MacPro4,1

      Processor Name:          Quad-Core Intel Xeon

      Processor Speed:          2.26 GHz

      Number of Processors:          2

      Total Number of Cores:          8

      L2 Cache (per Core):          256 KB

      L3 Cache (per Processor):          8 MB

      Memory:          16 GB

      Processor Interconnect Speed:          5.86 GT/s

      Boot ROM Version:          MP41.0081.B07

      SMC Version (system):          1.39f5

      SMC Version (processor tray):          1.39f5

      Serial Number (system):          H0******20H

      Serial Number (processor tray):          J5******LUC    

     

     

     

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 120:

     

     

      Chipset Model:          NVIDIA GeForce GT 120

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          PCIe

      Slot:          Slot-1

      PCIe Lane Width:          x16

      VRAM (Total):          512 MB

      Vendor:          NVIDIA (0x10de)

      Device ID:          0x0640

      Revision ID:          0x00a1

      ROM Revision:          3386

      Displays:

    DELL3007WFPHC:

      Resolution:          2560 x 1600

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Display Serial Number:          G744H932G5J4

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Rotation:          Supported

     

     

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 120:

     

      Chipset Model:          NVIDIA GeForce GT 120

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          PCIe

      Slot:          Slot-2

      PCIe Lane Width:          x16

      VRAM (Total):          512 MB

      Vendor:          NVIDIA (0x10de)

      Device ID:          0x0640

      Revision ID:          0x00a1

      ROM Revision:          3386

      Displays:

    DELL3007WFPHC:

      Resolution:          2560 x 1600

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Display Serial Number:          G7******29L

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Rotation:          Supported

     

     

     

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 120:

     

     

      Chipset Model:          NVIDIA GeForce GT 120

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          PCIe

      Slot:          Slot-3

      PCIe Lane Width:          x4

      VRAM (Total):          512 MB

      Vendor:          NVIDIA (0x10de)

      Device ID:          0x0640

      Revision ID:          0x00a1

      ROM Revision:          3386

      Displays:

    DELL3007WFPHC:

      Resolution:          2560 x 1600

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Display Serial Number:          G7*******65L

      Main Display:          Yes

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Rotation:          Supported

     

     

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 120:

     

     

      Chipset Model:          NVIDIA GeForce GT 120

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          PCIe

      Slot:          Slot-4

      PCIe Lane Width:          x4

      VRAM (Total):          512 MB

      Vendor:          NVIDIA (0x10de)

      Device ID:          0x0640

      Revision ID:          0x00a1

      ROM Revision:          3386

     

     

    My New confiuration:

     

    ATI Radeon HD 5770:

     

      Chipset Model:          ATI Radeon HD 5770

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          PCIe

      Slot:          Slot-2

      PCIe Lane Width:          x16

      VRAM (Total):          1024 MB

      Vendor:          ATI (0x1002)

      Device ID:          0x68b8

      Revision ID:          0x0000

      ROM Revision:          113-C0160C-155

      EFI Driver Version:          01.00.436

      Displays:

    DELL3007WFPHC:

      Resolution:          2560 x 1600

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Display Serial Number:          G746H94S265L

      Main Display:          Yes

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Rotation:          Supported

      Adapter Type:          Apple Mini DisplayPort To Dual-Link DVI Adapter

      Adapter Firmware Version:          1.03

    DELL3007WFPHC:

      Resolution:          2560 x 1600

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Display Serial Number:          G744H932G5J4

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Rotation:          Supported

      Adapter Type:          Apple Mini DisplayPort To Dual-Link DVI Adapter

      Adapter Firmware Version:          1.03

    DELL3007WFPHC:

      Resolution:          2560 x 1600

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Display Serial Number:          G746H94S329L

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Rotation:          Supported

     

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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,485 points)

    A note for anyone on Apple or really any onlne place...

     

    Do Not post serial number it is yours and you want to keep it that way.

     

    I guess a forum of "computer identity theft"

     

    So happy to see it working... just wish it was as simple as "recommend" and be done.

     

    A good system can't be beat. Image it. If you have time, it will save time to do a clean install and upgrades and image the system. Then install everything via Setup Assistant and whatever  else you need to do, and when you get done, a 2nd image. So you have a vanilla system and a working system image.

     

    All the fsck and Disk Warrior and DU Repairs will nice to get back up and runnning are not always clean and safe and 100%.

     

    The user account probably takes the most I/O

    The system caches for extensions and printers and other items that are easily rebuilt by a Safe Boot are good to do along with and after you have used Disk Utility from ML Recovery or from another boot drive like image of a clean system you made).

  • techmag Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for removing that serial number Mr hatter.

     

    Much appreciated.Advice taken and will be headed moving forward.

     

    I was wondering when I posted it if it were some form of risk but now I guess I know. Funny that Apple didn't take it one step further and tied identity to something a level below the actual serial number...

     

    Anyways the intent of the post was to be helpful to those that suffered like me and provide enough details that peopel could make intelligent comparisons. If the fix is new hardware then hey most of us with significnant commercial interests at stake would take this step as a no brainer.

     

    Still no crash so far...

  • andrew_smith Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This seems like buying a new (and overpriced) Apple-sold product to make the Apple product - that Apple essentially broke - actually work!

     

    What next? ...unsupport white keyboards so that we have to buy black ones?

  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,485 points)

    I can't edit posts but I did get someone to come look at it.

  • cryptomagic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm glad to hear that it fixed the Preferences Display | Arrangement memory issue for you as well.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/21748543

    techmag wrote:

     

    ...

     

    Rebooted and *** - my monitors are all in the correct order? Wow - I could get used to that

     

    I'm always amused at the posts bashing Apple for this and threatening to go back to Windows.  Really?  I've had my MacPro for 4 years and this is the first serious issue I've had.  It's a ~$250 fix on a ~$8k investment (when you add in software like CS4 for $2k) to replace a 4 year old component.  That's 3.125%

     

    KPs are very frustrating.  So are GPFs and BSODs.  Most of these get solved by a collaborative user community.  For me, the best part about having a Mac are these discussion groups where you get state of the art assistance from committed and knowledgable users.  That is priceless.

  • Pierre Igot Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    cryptomagic: you have a 2009 Mac Pro, right? Looks like the ATI 5770 is for 2010 Mac Pros only. Are you taking the chance and hoping it will work with your 2009 Mac Pro?

     

    Keep us posted!

     

    Pierre

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 9 Level 9 (52,130 points)

    It appears from my reading of this article, that the only RISK you are taking is that copy-protected movies may not play properly:

     

    Mac Pro: Using ATI Radeon HD 5770 graphics card with Mac Pro released before 2010

  • Pierre Igot Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Thanks. I've gone ahead and ordered one from the Apple Store (Canada) myself. (It's $269 + tax here.) Will post my results.

  • cryptomagic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Pierre Igot wrote:

     

    cryptomagic: you have a 2009 Mac Pro, right? Looks like the ATI 5770 is for 2010 Mac Pros only. Are you taking the chance and hoping it will work with your 2009 Mac Pro?

     

    Keep us posted!

     

    Pierre

     

    I'm taking the chance.  Will advise.

  • cryptomagic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My ATI card arrived today.  Install was a breeze

     

    1. ATI 5770 drives 2 LED Cinema Displays
    2. Old GeForce 120 drives 3rd LED Cinema Display

     

    The ATI is a bit noisy at startup, but after a few minutes it quiets down nicely.  Since I've switched to SSD, I've grown rather fond of a quiet office.

     

    1. All my windows remember all their locations between restarts.
    2. No Kernal Panics so far.  Prior to this, I was getting one every hour.

     

    Is it too early for a glass of Pinot Noir?  Nah...

  • Jsh111 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Please keep us in the loop on this - I'm especially excited if the ATI and the GeForce play OK together.

     

    How does performance seem to hold up?  Any noticeable difference?

  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,485 points)

    People used GTX 285 and a 2nd gpu back in 2009. GT120 w/ GTX or if you provide extra power cables ATI 4870 + GTX 285.

     

    Also you can find posts using Q4000 and ATI 5770 or two 5770/.

     

    It is just the multiple GT120s that are an issue.

  • Tay2001 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thats not strictly true, I've been using a GTX265 (I think) with a GT120 for sometime and I have the issues, I suspect as do others here that its the case of having multiple nvidia cards.

     

    I used to have a 4770 previously but it didnt really have the grunt and it didnt play well with Lion, I then upgraded to the GTX265 for Lion without issues, now Mountain Lion has come along I'm seeing issues.

  • bwinter88 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am having the same issue with crashing while playing video on my GT 120 external monitor on mid-2010 Mac Pro tower. I am using a GT 120 and a GTX 570 from MacVidCards, important to note that the crashes only occur when the video is being played on the monitor on the GT 120.

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