HT201289: Aperture 3: Troubleshooting basics
Learn about Aperture 3: Troubleshooting basics
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Sep 21, 2012 3:41 PM in response to Mark Scottby Leopoldnak,unfortunately this did not work for me :-(
any suggestions ?
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Sep 21, 2012 4:41 PM in response to Leopoldnakby Mark Scott,Leo,
What is your current status.
What version of Aperture?
Are you trying to open an Aperture or iphoto database?
Did you migrate from iphoto?
How long ago?
Did you do any recent software or firmare updates?
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Sep 22, 2012 1:15 AM in response to Mark Scottby Leopoldnak,What is your current status.
running 10.8.2, MBP15', relatively large iPhoto library of 500GB on a 1TB hdd
What version of Aperture?
latest version of aperture (3.4) and iphoto (9.4)
Are you trying to open an Aperture or iphoto database?
opening an aperture library is ok but opening the iPhoto library does no longer work after update
Did you migrate from iphoto?
did not migrate but with Aperture 3.3. I started using the same library with both iPhoto and Aperture
How long ago?
Did you do any recent software or firmare updates?
yes, recent updates of system to 10.8.2 and of iPhoto and Aperture
does this give any clue?
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Sep 22, 2012 1:19 AM in response to William Lloydby Leopoldnak,William Lloyd wrote:
Aperture 3.4: May quit unexpectedly on launch after updatind
does not seem to be my case since I can open an Aperture library without problem and without Aperture quitting; it just gets stuck with the "opening iphoto library" small window when trying to open the it; let it run over night but no progress at all; Aperture does not even give any error message, I can just quit it without having to force quit it; all seems fine except it cannot open the iPhoto library any more after the update
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Sep 22, 2012 1:38 AM in response to Leopoldnakby léonie,Now I am confused: in your first post you said:
Quit iPhoto then right clicked and reopened iPhoto library with Aperture which finallty opened Aperture again.
Does that mean, after opening in iPhoto the iPhoto library works with Aperture or do you mean, Aperture could open the Library but it hangs?
If Aperture hangs, I'd try to rebuild the iPhoto Library using iPhotos First Aid Tools:
hold down ⌥⌘ and double-click iPhoto then select "repair Database" from the First Aid panel. Also do a "Rebuild database" if necessary.
Aperture may hang for a completely different reason. There is recently a bug, that makes Aperture hang when viewing an iPhoto Library, if this library contains smart albums and is sorted by date.
Does your iPhoto Library contain smart albums, that have been created in iPhoto? You might consider to delete these and replace them by albums created in Aperture.
Regards
Léonie
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Sep 22, 2012 1:44 AM in response to léonieby Leopoldnak,leonieDF wrote:
Now I am confused: in your first post you said:
Quit iPhoto then right clicked and reopened iPhoto library with Aperture which finallty opened Aperture again.
Does that mean, after opening in iPhoto the iPhoto library works with Aperture or do you mean, Aperture could open the Library but it hangs?
If Aperture hangs, I'd try to rebuild the iPhoto Library using iPhotos First Aid Tools:
hold down ⌥⌘ and double-click iPhoto then select "repair Database" from the First Aid panel. Also do a "Rebuild database" if necessary.
Aperture may hang for a completely different reason. There is recently a bug, that makes Aperture hang when viewing an iPhoto Library, if this library contains smart albums and is sorted by date.
Does your iPhoto Library contain smart albums, that have been created in iPhoto? You might consider to delete these and replace them by albums created in Aperture.
Regards
Léonie
"Does that mean, after opening in iPhoto the iPhoto library works with Aperture or do you mean, Aperture could open the Library but it hangs?"
Yes, correct: iPhoto opens the iPhoto library without any problems, Aperture does not
I will see about your trick with the smart albums and sorting (though I have a lot of them and yes, most of them are sorted by date) - I can just try to sort them differently and this should work? will try
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Sep 22, 2012 2:00 AM in response to Leopoldnakby Leopoldnak,update: I have tried your proposed solution with the smart folders.
I have about 50 smart folders.
deleted about 10 and the other 40, I (temporarily) sorted them not by data but by title
closed iPhoto
tried to open the iPhoto library with Aperture - still the exactly same problem
any other suggestions?
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Sep 22, 2012 2:24 AM in response to Leopoldnakby léonie,It is not the sorting inside the album that may cause the problem, but the sorting in the Library Inspector: If you sort the projects and the albums in the "Library section" of Aperture's Inspector panel by date. Sorry to have been not clear about that.
If there are smart albums that are causing the hang, you should see error messages in the Console window like this:
8/6/12 6:22:32.589 PM Aperture: [<RKAlbum 0x1240e7a20> valueForUndefinedKey:]: this class is not key value coding-compliant for the key minImageDate.
See this post by Alex Brown for more detail:
Aperture 3.3.2 unresponsive if library contains old iPhoto albums - solution
If this does not apply, try the library repair options.
Regards
Léonie
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Sep 22, 2012 2:43 AM in response to léonieby Leopoldnak,I also sorted the library section of Iphoto by title and not by date - I can't do the same for Aperture since as reported, I just would not go that far but it hands when opening the iPhoto library.
Should I try the Aperture library repair options at startup to repair the iPhoto library even though it works perfectly under iPhoto? Wouldn't this risk making damage to a perfectly working iPhoto library? I am a bit worried of playing around with 500GB of data ...
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Sep 22, 2012 2:51 AM in response to Leopoldnakby léonie,Should I try the Aperture library repair options at startup to repair the iPhoto library even though it works perfectly under iPhoto? Wouldn't this risk making damage to a perfectly working iPhoto library? I am a bit worried of playing around with 500GB of data ...
I meant - use the Library repair in iPhoto; that should be a routine repair in iPhoto and keep it working in iPhoto.
And you do have a backup of your Library, do you?
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Sep 22, 2012 2:54 AM in response to léonieby Leopoldnak,will try it - I do have a TM backup of course but it would still be a paid to restore 0.5TB of data ...
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Sep 23, 2012 4:37 AM in response to Mark Scottby Leopoldnak,the only thing that worked solving the issue was re-installing aperture from scratch ... all fine now. Quite disappointed that there can still be some so stupid mistakes in programme updates by a company like apple
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Sep 23, 2012 4:44 AM in response to Leopoldnakby léonie,the only thing that worked solving the issue was re-installing aperture from scratch ... all fine now.
That is what William Lloyd suggested in his first post. I assumed you had tried the reinstall all along