User profile for user: Cathy Kush
Cathy Kush Author
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Unique (?) problem Kid Pix & dvd

Working in an educational setting, students make projects using Kid Pix. The file can be saved (or technically, exported) as a quick time movie.
I'd like to put these QuickTime movies into a DVD using iDVD but I am having problems.

Basically, the video doesn't encode (following status--background encoding) -- I know that it should show DONE--and it doesn't show anything...no progress at all.
So, if I go to burn, it goes through everything until the actually burning...and the message comes up that iDVD has unexpectedly quit. This has happened more than once...I've been trying for a few days.

The quicktime is saved as a .mov file
I've tried moving the files (originally on an external firewire, I've moved to the desktop.
I've tried at home, at school...I don't want to waste anymore bland DVD

Thanks for any help.

eMac, Mac OS X (10.4.5), iDVD 5.0.1

Posted on Apr 3, 2006 7:52 AM

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User profile for user: Karsten Schlüter
Karsten Schlüter
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Apr 3, 2006 8:12 AM in response to Cathy Kush

... made a rush reading about the specs, it just says full iLife integration and export as QT.movie... but not what codec, compressor etc....

are you able to open that exported kidpix.mov with QTplayer?
do you use any music from the iTMusic Store?

finally, the usual suspects:
is the kidpix.mov on internal drive?
does the Mac with iDVD has a "Movie" folder on start-up disk?
do you use any ext. burner...?
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User profile for user: PT
PT
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Apr 4, 2006 6:46 AM in response to Cathy Kush

To add my thoughts. Are you SURE this is Kids Pix related? It might just be a coincidence and really you are just having troubles with burning DVDs period. So my first thought is, have you tried burning another project that doesn't contain any K.P. QT imports? Also, have you tried "burning" the project to a disc image rather than directly to a DVD blank?
My standard list of things to do first for these wierd sort of problems, but I also tend to run these before I go to burn an iDVD project just to be safe. Keep in mind this list represents the programs I tend to use. There are several alternate programs that do the same things with some combining the functions of some of the ones below. So everyone has their favorites, but here are mine...
  • Run MacJanitor (free download) to do all the Unix Cron Maintenance scripts.
  • Run Disk Utility (Applications -> Utilities) and repair disk permissions on your start up drive (typically your internal drive). Also verify any other drives mounted on the system, especially any external drives that you use for iMovie and iDVD projects.
  • Run Preferential Treatment (free download) to check for corrupt/damaged application and system preference files.
  • Run Cache Out X (free download) to clear all system and application caches.
  • Reboot your Mac (after running Cache Out X you are given the option to restart the machine).

If you still can not get it to run correctly, next thing to try is to throw out the iDVD preference file (don't forget to change back those preferences you want different from the defaults next time you run it).

Patrick
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User profile for user: Cathy Kush
Cathy Kush Author
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Apr 4, 2006 11:33 AM in response to PT

Thanks for your suggestions...
This may be a project for spring break...

Since I've tried on two different machines I'm guessing it is not a drive/burner issue. Both have burned dvd...

I hgaven't triedthe disc image thing...burning to a disk image rather than a blank dvd.

I will also look at the Kid Pix website for info...I"m still perplexed and befuddled since "in theory" this should work.


Thanks
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User profile for user: Karsten Schlüter
Karsten Schlüter
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Apr 4, 2006 1:22 PM in response to Cathy Kush

how shall I read two different machines ... two emacs, or two different Macs..?

the emac is not a beast of a machine... you need 10 - 15GB of free disk space to let iDVD work correctly.... my guess, a school computer runs out of disk space within a blink of an eye....

and, for sure, iDVD project has to be <120min....

follow PT's excellent advices...
as you said: in theory it should work ... ;-))
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User profile for user: Matti Haveri
Matti Haveri
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Apr 4, 2006 10:07 PM in response to Cathy Kush

FWIW an Apple document indicates that you may get an audio encoding error message when you try to burn a DVD in iDVD 5 that contains an iMovie HD project without any audio (such as an iMovie project that contains only still images). Adding a short audio track (even a non-audible track!) to the iMovie project will fix this error.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301876

So maybe it is the missing audio track in the KidPix .mov that confuses iDVD 5?

iDVD 5 has all sorts of other encoding problems:

http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/iMovieHD_5_bugs.html#iDVDerror
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User profile for user: Cathy Kush
Cathy Kush Author
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Apr 6, 2006 11:29 AM in response to Cathy Kush

I think we've got it!!
I'm going to hold off on saying solved until I try one more time....I just ran a sample...
I went to iMovie first, added titles and added a music track!!

ALthough it still didn't show any progress under encoding (status) -- the CD burned and worked.

I want to try this again with the bigger sample...
If I can get it to burn on the weekend...I'll mark this as a solved question....

Cathy
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