AndrewD

Q: Creating or editing subclips

Hi all,

 

When I want to edit the audio of a subclip created in FCP, the entire clip opens in Soundtrack, not just the portion of it that I've made into a subclip. Even if I mark the In and Out in FCP, it opens without showing this segment, so I can't see where the specific portion is.

 

I'm new to using Soundtrack as my editing tool, and my requirements of it are pretty basic, just clean up and cut up audio clips.

 

Is it possible to:

 

– create an audio subclip within Soundtrack? Hopefully something similar to FCP such as marking the In and Out > CMD + U.

 

or

 

– edit the audio of a FCP subclip without saving the clip first as a separate file? (e.g select subclip in FCP > right click > open in editor, perform the edit then see the changes immediately when I roundtrip to FCP)

 

Thank you,

Andrew

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 12Gb RAM; Final Cut Studio

Posted on Sep 13, 2012 6:38 PM

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Q: Creating or editing subclips

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  • by Studio X,

    Studio X Studio X Sep 15, 2012 2:35 PM in response to AndrewD
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    Sep 15, 2012 2:35 PM in response to AndrewD

    If you want to just edit one little segment of a longer clip, you'll need to export that segment from FCP to make it a stand alone clip.

     

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  • by AndrewD,

    AndrewD AndrewD Sep 15, 2012 5:02 PM in response to Studio X
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    Sep 15, 2012 5:02 PM in response to Studio X

    I don't understand. The FCP subclip I'm opening in Soundtrack is the little segment of a longer clip. But when I open that in Soundtrack, the entire clip from which it was made appears.

  • by Studio X,

    Studio X Studio X Sep 16, 2012 2:36 PM in response to AndrewD
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    Sep 16, 2012 2:36 PM in response to AndrewD

    That is because FCP sends the original file to Soundtrack. (The same situation was true with earlier versions of Motion as well).

     

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  • by Studio X,

    Studio X Studio X Sep 16, 2012 3:05 PM in response to AndrewD
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    Sep 16, 2012 3:05 PM in response to AndrewD

    Also, when you "sub-clip" a file, all FCP does is add some pointers to that segment of the clip. It does not create a unique new file. This is why when you send the "sub-clip" to STP, the whole file comes thorugh.

     

    Subclipping has some useful organizational functions but its limits with clip manipulation really soured the deal for me - I do a lot of retiming (slow mo/ accellerated playback) and sub-clips never really worked well in that world. I generally use Markers for organizing elements in longer clips.

     

    YMMV.

     

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  • by AndrewD,

    AndrewD AndrewD Sep 16, 2012 10:10 PM in response to Studio X
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    Sep 16, 2012 10:10 PM in response to Studio X

    Thanks for that, I understand the limitations now. Back to the original question...Can you tell me how to export the segment I'm working on in FCP to make it a stand alone clip in Soundtrack? I have tried placing In and Out points on the clip, then File > Send to > Soundtrack, and File > Open in Editor. Neither worked.

  • by Studio X,Solvedanswer

    Studio X Studio X Sep 19, 2012 8:41 PM in response to AndrewD
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    Sep 19, 2012 8:41 PM in response to AndrewD

    To create a stand alone clip ...

     

    Set In/Out points then Export, current settings and tell FCP where to put the new file

     

    Import the newly created file back into FCP, put it ont the timeline and send it to Soundtrack.

     

    It takes longer to describe the process than to execute it.

     

    Have fun.

     

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  • by AndrewD,

    AndrewD AndrewD Sep 19, 2012 11:25 PM in response to Studio X
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    Sep 19, 2012 11:25 PM in response to Studio X

    Many thanks, that did the trick!