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Opinions, Mac pro 12 core or 6 core for video editing?

Hello everyone,


I know that this a most likely a rhetorical question but i currently have a mac pro 12 core 2.4ghz 12 gigs of ram (plan on upgrading to 32 gigs) and a 6 core 3.33ghz 12 gigs of ram. I do a lot of video editing (starting to use Final cut pro X) and i do a lot of visual effects work in Adobe after effects and 3D animaton work in cinema 4d. I am only keeping one of the computers.. what are your guys thoughts? Should i keep the 12 core even tough it has a lower clock speed, or should i keep the 6 core since it has a higher clock speed? I dont mean to ask such a dumb question but i want to hear what your guys thoughts are.


Thanks in advance!

Posted on Sep 15, 2012 11:57 PM

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Sep 17, 2012 5:25 PM in response to SonyGuy11

Also I just ran some test: both computers had the same footage on them, I applied a simple effect to both clips and did render (preview render) and the 6 core pulled thru faster.. I also exported the clips and still the 6 core won.. I did both test in fcp 7 (yes I know it doesn't utilize all cores or ram) and I tested it in adobe premiere pro cs5.5. The only test that I have seen a difference in speed is exporting from after effects and the 12 core beat the 6 core. But if this is the case what do people use the 12 core for if the 6 core seems to pull through faster? (It's not night and day, but when comparing 12 cores to 6 core you would think the 12 core would out perform the 6 core)

Sep 16, 2012 8:23 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Is having the processors at 2.4ghz with 12 cores still going to pull through faster, even though its a significant decrease than the 6 core 3.33ghz? I feel if I bump the ram up it will be more of a beast than the 6 core.. Also I plan on upgrading the CPU's in the future (that is if they ever decide to go down in price..) but my major work that I do on a day to day basis is editing it final cut x and also premiere pro. Also I'm doing more visual effects in after effects that are pretty advance

Sep 17, 2012 11:28 AM in response to SonyGuy11

Here is my thinking:


If you dump the 12-core, and your rendering work does not seem to run fast enough, you will kick yourself for dumping the one with more cores -- Regardless of whether it would actually be faster or not.


If you dump the 6-core, and your regular work does not run fast enough, you will say, "This one has more cores than anything. When I can support two again, I should buy myself an additional Mac Pro, maybe just a 6-core."


If you had it all to do over again:


Definitley buy the fast 6-core over the 4-core Base model. Twice the performance at 1.5 times the price. Lower power consumption and less complexity than the dual-chip models. A "sweet spot".


Or buy the base model and plan to upgrade the chip yourself to a fast 6-core later.

Sep 17, 2012 11:42 AM in response to SonyGuy11

After Effects: http://www.barefeats.com/aecs6.html


If you rely on cpu alone, it may look like it is working, or lagging, or wating, but with the combined power of GPGPU can make all the difference.


Communicating over Quick-Path is okay but Intel knows that they need to up the GT and L3 cache to improve it more. ie, there are times when two 6-core Mac Pros are faster than one 12-core, given the same GHz.


the real reason people bought dual with lower clock was hoping it would do more work, but when you have 3.33GHz a lot of work that cann't be dispatched and is not multi-thread or multicore all benefit.


W3680s are relatively cheap @ $600, you will not find X5600 sets unless you can make your system pay for whatever you throw at it and do so in a year to write it off and pay for doing more projects and more income.


This guy goes kind of crazy with custom setup 12-core 3.33s, 960GB SSD PCIe and 96GB RAM.


More RAM helps some areas but not rendering. So find the bottlenecks or throw everything at the problem and hope.


$1660 a piece X5680 - $1470 on Amazon

http://ark.intel.com/products/47916/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5680-(12M-Cache-3_33-G Hz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI)


http://www.amazon.com/Intel-X5680-Processor-Socket-LGA1366/dp/B003ELYSJQ/


Only if you shop ebay for used parts, and by then whatever Intel and Apple agree on next go round new is a better system solution most of the time than to throw $3000 into an older system. $3k would be another 6-core 3.33 if that helps.

Sep 17, 2012 5:45 PM in response to SonyGuy11

That is not a fair test of a 12 cores power. A single effect on a single clip will not be split into more than six threads on most programs and the 6 core will outperform the 12 on anything with less than around 8 intensive threads quite easily. Also take into account that the GPU is leveraged Premiere Pro so everything has other factors involved except AE. (Unless you turn on OpenGL AE does not use GPGPU and if you do AE does not use the processor).


Try opening a finished project with 20+ clips and banks of effects and the 12 core should eat it alive at render and export on everything but FCP (due to the thread limit), unelss the 6 core has a faster GPU and the program is using GPGPU acceleration. If so your solution is to swap the GPU into the 12 core for even more power.


Either way I am keen to see the result. The fact is you are comparing the workstation equivalent of an i7 agains 2 older i7s at a lower clock speed and the 2 should win.

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