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  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,860 points)
    the only help you or anyone else with points could do for us is to find us a way to get to iOS 5 again

     

     

    As you have been told many times, that kind of help cannot be provided on these forums. Any posts giving instructions on how to downgrade will quickly be deleted by the forum hosts, as such topics are not tolerated by Apple (as many of us have found out through personal experience in the past).

     

    If you can use Google, you will find the information you require. It just cannot be linked to or posted here, and obviously, if anything goes wrong, won't be supported by Apple.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (45,560 points)

    Ex-Apple Fan wrote:

     

    Which consumer reports?

     

    Who is the consumer? and who interviewed them?

     

    Assuming your question was not rhetorical, Consumer Reports is a highly respected publication that accepts no advertising so as to be able to remain more objective.

     

    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/index.htm

  • Dan2k6 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Can somebody please tell me whether navigation speech can be used on the 'walk' setting, or is it when driving only? Thanks in advance.

  • Matthew Morgan Level 7 Level 7 (22,595 points)

    As far as I can tell, spoken directions only works in with driving.

     

    Matt

  • Ex-Apple Fan Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    What is it your problem that you insist to fail to understand that our problem with Apple Maps is for its use OUTSIDE the US.

     

    It seems it works for you somehow in the US. For us outside the US it is a piece of crap and garbage.

     

    How about I give you a Phillippini version of a Consumer Report indicating the positive experience of people of Phillipines enjoying eating dogs meat and tell you that you should like it too because it works for the people of Phillippine?

  • Nogueira Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sheep have a strong instinct to follow the sheep in front of them. When one sheep decides to go somewhere, the rest of the flock usually follows, even if it is not a good "decision." For example, sheep will follow each other to slaughter. If one sheep jumps over a cliff, the others are likely to follow. Even from birth, lambs are conditioned to follow the older members of the flock. This instinct is "hard-wired" into sheep. It's not something they "think" about.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (45,560 points)

    Ex-Apple Fan wrote:

     

    What is it your problem that you insist to fail to understand that our problem with Apple Maps is for its use OUTSIDE the US.

     

    You asked a question. I answered it. I fail to understand how a simple, factual answer could provoke such hysterics.

  • duckdive Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    What meg st Clair, many apple fans, certain journalists etc amongst others seem to want to ignore is the following scenario:

     

    This morning, I'm planning to go to a cactus nursery here in Melbourne Australia. I live in the one of the most established central locations of Australia. The nursery I'm heading to is about 30 minutes away by car. I've been to this nursery before, but never ever having been great with directions, I would always use a mapping service to guide me. For the last few years the mapping service of choice for me had been google maps. And id never had a backup service nor set of maps because for me, in my personal experience, i never once needed one, not in Australia, Indonesia or Singapore. It was for this power user of google maps100% accurate and reliable every single time. 

     

    This morning, for my trip to the cactus nursery, I will have to do the following as i am driving blind. I will be using Waze. Ive found it in the last few days to be good, however, when I input an address, it requires me to make a choice between 3 or 4 possible address destinations. So when im going to an  unfamiliar destination, it becomes necessary to go to the google maps web application in order to confirm the right final destination. Once confirmed, it is then possible to go back to waze and be confident im being navigated to the correct final destination.

     

    In my situation this morning, apple maps will not be considered for the task as it has proven on numerous occassions for me here in Melbourne Australia to be unreliable in both finding a final destination, and poor routing ability.

     

    A consumer report touting the greatness of the apple maps application is simply another example of a journalist unable to see the emperor is wearing no clothes.

  • Matthew Morgan Level 7 Level 7 (22,595 points)

     

    A consumer report touting the greatness of the apple maps application is simply another example of a journalist unable to see the emperor is wearing no clothes.

     

     

    For better or worse, the reality is that deep integration of Google Maps Data in iOS is over - done.

     

    Those looking for a phone with integration of Google Maps Data in the OS (not just an app or web) should be looking at Android phones.  There are some great ones out there.  There are choices now that simply didn't exist in 2007.

     

    Google's Android OS is a direct competitor with Apple's iOS, so looking for Google Maps data servicing the iOS Map Kit Framework is becoming a bit like looking for a BMW transmission in a Mercedes.

     

    It might be best to start either working with what you've got or seeking alternatives.

     

    Matt

  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,820 points)

    To the contrary.  No one is ignoring or even saying Maps should be the Map app of choice for you.  No one is arguing that it works the best in all situations. What we who have now been stupidly named "sheep" are saying is there's nothing anyone here can do to help, other than suggest alternate options.  Apple isn't, let me say that louder, ISN'T going to let you roll back the OS or give back Google Maps as native in iOS.  My comments have never indicated I think maps is the solution for everyone.  Though it seems to work fine for my needs, in Tampa, FL., I have no doubt it is not fully accurate where you, or others may live.  Still, there are no options this forum can offer, so for those who keep coming here moaning and whining, they are perhaps making themselves feel better, but are not accomplishing anything else.

  • duckdive Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Matthew, you are incorrect. The jailbreak community will ultimately allow me to use my favorite hardware with one of my favorite pieces of software.

     

    And just out of interest, are you able to actually say apple maps is not fit for release? Because it is not fit for release if compared to the gold-standard of mapping apps the phone had on it previously.

  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,820 points)

    Duck guy......no one is saying you can't do what your post suggested.  It can not be discussed on this forum, but I'm sure there are other forums you can join where it can be discussed.  Do remember that if you brick your phone, you'll get zero support from Apple or anyone here.

  • duckdive Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Google maps did work best in all situations and that is why it is the gold standard in mapping apps.

     

    Part of the reason we keep coming back here is to hope we may find a solution. It is also important to allow anyone thinking of buying a new iphone or upgrading to ios6 understand that apple maps is not a fit replacement for google maps and they should be aware that they will not be able to rely on it.

     

    If consumers were to rely on your judgement, they would be mislead unless they lived on a golf course in Tampa using a golf-cart as their primary means of transport.

     

    For the rest of us, who visit new locations on a regular and sometimes daily basis, apple maps is unusable. No doubt, within the next few weeks, there will be a path to having google maps integrate with the os and it will be thanks to people who actually contribute solutions to problems rather than apologists such as yourself.

  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,820 points)

    Well, enjoy your fantasy world.  I've never apologised for anything and I have nothing to apologise for.  I see you have ZERO points.  Wow, you've really been a helpful member of this community.

  • Matthew Morgan Level 7 Level 7 (22,595 points)

    duckdive wrote:

     

    The jailbreak community will ultimately allow me to use my favorite hardware with one of my favorite pieces of software.

     

    Great.  There's your alternative.  Not one I'd recommend, but if it work's for you, go for it.

    Because it is not fit for release if compared to the gold-standard of mapping apps the phone had on it previously.

     

    Fit or not, it had to happen.  Now or later, it had to happen.

     

    Also, keep in mind that the Maps app that the iPhone had and currently has, is an Apple app.  It's the data that was coming form Google Maps.

     

    Matt

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