Q: Apple maps very disappointing

That shows that 60,97% of people prefer Google Maps and 32,10% prefer Apple Maps. So what?

By the way, here in my house we have three iPhones: me and my two daughters. When I asked them if they liked the Apple Maps, they said they did not even have a look at the maps. They use iPhone mostly to exchange messages with their friends. But when I told them about the Apple Maps mess, that does not interfered with their feelings about iPhone, but recognized that the people who uses maps deserve respect.

etresoft wrote:

 

Do you really think repeating the same internet lies over and over again somehow makes them more true? Anyone can walk into an Apple Store and try it for themselves.

 

Certainly Apple Maps can be improved, but then that is true of just about anything. This weekend I used Apple Maps to navigate to a remote, off-the-grid house in the middle-of-nowhere Ontario. When the iPhone announced we had arrived at our destination, we could see that we were still at least a kilometer away. But had we used Google Maps, we would have been on the wrong side of a rather large lake.

The only Internet lies being told in this thread is by you and your fellow level liars

Going into an apple store and trying out an iPhone will demonstrate exactly what your fellow levels appear to have done.

--- oh look cool spinning buildings we can fly over - shiny awesomeness that is apple - now I must go and tell everyone it's better than google maps

prospective buyers and those thinking of upgrading need only look and see that those new poster have registered here for the first time because when they were able to, they would be out in the real world exploring and enjoying life rather than living here to beg for level cookies and suck up to apple

justjesper wrote:

 

Do we need to say more

 

How Apple's Decision To Replace Google Maps Is Affecting iPhone 5 Sales

"The bottom line as far as Apple is concerned: its lackluster maps had almost no impact on people's decision to buy the iPhone 5"

rbrylawski wrote:

 

Nogueira wrote:

 

I know and everybody knows that at the moment they will not let us downgrade.

 

I have just asked about what they are afraid.

 

In my opinion they are afraid of a massive downgrade, which only will confirm the failure of IOS 6.

 

So please, let me know what are you thinking about the reasons they will not permit downgrade.

 

Because:

 

• Apple has never permitted downgrades
• So many of the Apps are now optimized for iOS6 and downgrading would cause more furur than this silly Maps issue
• It's not as simple as you seem to think, as in you don't just turn a switch on
• It has nothing to do with fear, as you seem to suggest
• Oh and did I mention Apple just doesn't support downgrades
• iOS6 is not a failure.  Let me repeat that.  IT IS NOT A FAILURE.  Maps may leave something to be desired, but the OS is just fine and in many ways a vast improvement.

 

Why yes, I think I did.  So again, WHY do you ask over and over and over and over.  What is it getting you?  It certainly won't get you a downgrade.  But if it makes you happy to sound like a broken record, knock yourself out.

 

• Apple has never permitted downgrades

 

That's not a Constitutional Law or Heavens Commitments.

There is a first time for all.

 

• So many of the Apps are now optimized for iOS6 and downgrading would cause more furur than this silly Maps issue

 

There are many phones still running IOS 5 without problems.

 

• It's not as simple as you seem to think, as in you don't just turn a switch on

 

For non technicians, is not simple, but for technicians is simple.

• It has nothing to do with fear, as you seem to suggest

 

Give permission to downgrade and we will see.

 

 

• Oh and did I mention Apple just doesn't support downgrades

 

That's not a Constitutional Law or Heavens Commitments.

There is a first time for all.

 

 

 

• iOS6 is not a failure.  Let me repeat that.  IT IS NOT A FAILURE.  Maps may leave something to be desired, but the OS is just fine and in many ways a vast improvement.

 

Not a failure for you, but for many others it is a failure. Contacts integration with Maps does not work properly. Maps is a mess. There is the battery drain issue. And for my personal usage, I don't see a vast improvements at all.

I hadn't spotted contacts integration before reading your post. Thanks for the heads-up - works great for me in the UK.  :-)

PS. Allowing downgrades is not simple, no matter how much you profess to the contrary. And I am not a "non technician"... whatever that means.

imaybeawhile wrote:

 

Going into an apple store and trying out an iPhone will demonstrate exactly what your fellow levels appear to have done.

--- oh look cool spinning buildings we can fly over - shiny awesomeness that is apple - now I must go and tell everyone it's better than google maps

Have you ever actually been to an Apple Store? It isn't like a PC store. In a PC store, all of the machines run demo software. You can't actually play with anything. All you can do is look. In an Apple Store, you can look at the pretty 3D flyovers. Or you can check out your own neighborhood. You can look at the coverage of the places you might want to go. If you don't like it, then you don't have to buy or you could put off an upgrade.

You can do whatever you want to the devices in the store. While you are playing with maps, go ahead and turn off WiFi. Then, keep playing with maps. Compare Apple Maps with Google now!

The worst part about going to an Apple Store is that you aren't going to get in and out quickly. You will almost certainly have to wait your turn to play with one of these iOS6 devices.

prospective buyers and those thinking of upgrading need only look and see that those new poster have registered here for the first time because when they were able to, they would be out in the real world exploring and enjoying life rather than living here to beg for level cookies and suck up to apple

People in the real world, where cellular coverage isn't always HSPDA and WiFi isn't always available, and need to use a map while driving, would really appreciate Apple's new Maps app.

etresoft wrote:

Have you ever actually been to an Apple Store? It isn't like a PC store. In a PC store, all of the machines run demo software. You can't actually play with anything. All you can do is look. In an Apple Store, you can look at the pretty 3D flyovers. Or you can check out your own neighborhood. You can look at the coverage of the places you might want to go. If you don't like it, then you don't have to buy or you could put off an upgrade.

I have been to several apple stores all over the world. I loved my iDevices. I loved the fact that wherever I was in the world (I travel frequently) I could use the google map app and I could get to or from wherever I wanted to or wherever I ended up using the integration to local transport.

This is no longer possible - prospective buyers will no doubt checkout their own neighbourhood and see their homes on the interweb - if they are lucky. However when prospective buyers select navigate to here and select bus or train they will know who the liars are.

etresoft wrote:

 

 

 

People in the real world, where cellular coverage isn't always HSPDA and WiFi isn't always available, and need to use a map while driving, would really appreciate Apple's new Maps app.

I have never in the last 4 years of  iphone ownership and global travel had issues finding Internet access either directly through my service provider or via wifi in a hotel of wherever I am staying.

I do however expect that when getting directions from my iPhone, they are to where I want to go to and not an airport that doesn't exist or into an area of town that I do not want to be in. Most importantly integration with public transport.

if however while you are driving and want voice - I accept that google maps on iPhone isn't an option (at this time) however neither is iMaps - unless you want to drive around in circles and end up anywhere but where you want to be

Great news at last!!!

Google IOS maps is here!

http://searchengineland.com/googles-ios-maps-app-appears-in-leaked-screenshots-1 36611?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed-main

Now I can stop using this cheap Android phone I bought last month only for Google maps and I can stop carrying two phones.

I will be able to use a proper working maps application again in India on my iPhone 4!

What a piece of crap IOS6 Apple maps is - created so much inconvenience and trouble.

All OK from next month it looks like!

imaybeawhile wrote:

 

I have never in the last 4 years of  iphone ownership and global travel had issues finding Internet access either directly through my service provider or via wifi in a hotel of wherever I am staying.

But you are changing the context. No one ever said Google Maps wasn't an entertaining app to play with while you are sitting in a hotel with WiFi. Hotels usually even have computers right there. That isn't going to help you when you leave the hotel and the freeway and don't have 3G service, let alone WiFi. And even though you might have cell service in some area, someone else, on a carrier with different roaming agreements, might have nothing. When that happens, you'll appreciate Apple Maps.

While Apple is apologizing , Google is working .

Thank you Google.

You obviously didn't read that apple could not provide turn by turn voice using google maps for the data.  It was against google's license agreement. Blame google for not allowing it.

Doesn't it make sense that Google doesn't WANT to provide the enemy with turn by turn???

etresoft wrote:

 

imaybeawhile wrote:

 

 

I have never in the last 4 years of  iphone ownership and global travel had issues finding Internet access either directly through my service provider or via wifi in a hotel of wherever I am staying.

 

But you are changing the context. No one ever said Google Maps wasn't an entertaining app to play with while you are sitting in a hotel with WiFi. Hotels usually even have computers right there. That isn't going to help you when you leave the hotel and the freeway and don't have 3G service, let alone WiFi. And even though you might have cell service in some area, someone else, on a carrier with different roaming agreements, might have nothing. When that happens, you'll appreciate Apple Maps.

No, I'm not changing the context at all. You are missing the point. Just because apple maps might function in a limited capacity without internet doesn't make it useful when it doesn't know the difference between a pig farm and an airport or a restaurant and a brothel.

I have never failed to find my way around with google maps - I have an iPhone with a UK SIM and when travelling I roam - all works fine. Never been without the Internet. The iPhone is quite good at that - not going to argue with its ability to make calls and find a signal.

I do however argue with the fact that apple doesn't think there is anything wrong with removing functionality that previously existed and doesn't allow a downgrade to restore this functionality despite the window of downgrade opportunity being kept open for two days after the release (therefore it is possible) and existing 5.1 users are still able to use their phones (therefore it remains possible).

My teenage children have iPhones that I purchased for them so that they are able to use google maps to navigate home using public transport from wherever they may end up in London. They (and I) no longer have this comfort and security. This is an unacceptable situation and I am currently speaking to a consumer watchdog about what can be done including exercising our rights regarding a product being fit for purpose.

The issues with Maps doesn't appear to be hurting iPhone 5 sales:

http://www.macworld.com/article/2011805/survey-maps-controversy-has-no-impact-on -iphone-5-demand.html

But so what? Who apart from Apple was so desperate to have turn-by-turn on the Google-powered Maps app? In the intervening years so many excellent dedicated sat-nav apps had been established, some of which integrated well with the iOS (navigate to Contacts, etc).

Was there really a significant need to junk Google just so we could have (pretty bloody basic) Apple turn-by-turn?