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  • imaybeawhile Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)

    KC7GNM wrote:

     

    You obviously didn't read that apple could not provide turn by turn voice using google maps for the data.  It was against google's license agreement. Blame google for not allowing it.

    Why would I blame google - I have never wanted voice in maps. I simply want accurate locations and public transport integration.

     

    I think it's hilarious that people want to use a £500+ phone to do what a £75 sat nav will do much better.

     

    I do however accept that some may want this - not at the cost of accuracy and public transport however!

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    The rest of the phone is still pretty awesome - of course it's going to sell by the bucket-load. That doesn't mean that it, the iOS or Apple are beyond reproach.

  • William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,890 points)

    le.bouch wrote:

     

    But so what? Who apart from Apple was so desperate to have turn-by-turn on the Google-powered Maps app? In the intervening years so many excellent dedicated sat-nav apps had been established, some of which integrated well with the iOS (navigate to Contacts, etc).

     

    Was there really a significant need to junk Google just so we could have (pretty bloody basic) Apple turn-by-turn?

     

    Many have indeed been "bashing" Apple for this in the context of "Well, Android has this, why doesn't Apple" whining from various parties, including tech journalists.

     

    I understand it's frustrating, especially outside the UK, but the fact remains that for most living in at least urban or suburban US areas, Maps does get you where you want to go quite nicely. (Yes, I know you could download any number of GPS apps that did the same thing, and that still do it better.)

     

    It's also wrapped up in an ever escalating feud between Google and Apple because Google is going to provide all the good stuff to Android devices for the obvious reason they own Android.

  • Tgara Level 4 Level 4 (3,540 points)

    imaybeawhile wrote:

    Just because apple maps might function in a limited capacity without internet doesn't make it useful when it doesn't know the difference between a pig farm and an airport or a restaurant and a brothel.

     

    Yes it does!

     

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  • KC7GNM Level 4 Level 4 (2,735 points)

    Exactly so why should apple allow google maps on their phone.

  • KC7GNM Level 4 Level 4 (2,735 points)

    It is a phone first and foremost. Maps is just a nice to have feature not a must need feature. If you want that then buy an app that does that or get a stand alone GPS! My god what did you folks do before GPS? I guess you stayed lost all the time.

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    William, I guess that particular Apple-bashing must have passed me by then.

     

    I totally get that Apple want to distance themselves from Google - it makes sense. I'm irked that they pulled the cord _way_ before they were ready, especially as it involved 'taking' something great away from us in the process. Turn-by-turn, flyover, vector graphics are nice and all but are just a smokescreen - Apple did this to screw Google, nothing more. In the process, the US came out ok, the rest of us...

     

    Where will this stop though - no more Yahoo weather? No more Yelp? Google search blocked?

     

    I'm grateful that of the people here with experience in this forum, at least you grasp that the US experience of Maps differs greatly from ours.

    I guess Apple are never going to come out and admit that they only care about the US market, although I bet they're putting a lot of effort into sorting out the Chinese Maps as we speak... If their expansion in that market goes to plan you US users might find yourselves the poor relations as we in the ROW currently are :-)

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (27,125 points)

    imaybeawhile wrote:

     

    Just because apple maps might function in a limited capacity without internet doesn't make it useful when it doesn't know the difference between a pig farm and an airport or a restaurant and a brothel.

    You may have a point there. I've never used Apple Maps to direct me to any brothels. I suggest you stick with Google for that one.

  • KC7GNM Level 4 Level 4 (2,735 points)

    I never used the old apple maps app because it sucked and was worthless. The new apple maps actually has more functionality than it did previously. They still have a ways to go to catch up to apps like Tom Tom but it is a step in the right direction. Had google let apple put turn by turn in using their data then it might have been better but google refused to let apple do that so apple was left with no choice but to go on their own. Too bad many of you can't look past google and see there are tons of apps that integrate with the phone. Tom Tom does that perfectly. I think all you folks wanting just one app out of millions on the phone should just go buy an android device. Maps is one very s,all feature of the phone and not even a major one at that. Remember this is a phone, not a dedicated GPS device. In fact without using wifi and cellular the GPS on the phone really would suck.

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    "It is a phone first and foremost. Maps is just a nice to have feature not a must need feature. If you want that then buy an app that does that or get a stand alone GPS! My god what did you folks do before GPS? I guess you stayed lost all the time."

     

    It's not a "must-need" feature in _your_ opinion.

     

    I had already bought an app that did it, many times better than Maps does now.

     

    I don't want a stand-alone GPS. Who would? Convergence is the key.

     

    Before GPS I used a map. Before I had car I had a cycle. Progress, I guess..

  • imaybeawhile Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)

    KC7GNM wrote:

     

    It is a phone first and foremost. Maps is just a nice to have feature not a must need feature. If you want that then buy an app that does that or get a stand alone GPS! My god what did you folks do before GPS? I guess you stayed lost all the time.

    Actually, no - and the fact that you think that demonstrates your ignorance to the use of mobile phones today.

  • KC7GNM Level 4 Level 4 (2,735 points)

    There were a lot more wanting turn by turn voice than people like you. Apple goes with what people want.  Besides have you even looked in the App Store for an alternative?

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (27,125 points)

    le.bouch wrote:

     

    Was there really a significant need to junk Google just so we could have (pretty bloody basic) Apple turn-by-turn?

    Apple's contract with Google expires next year anyway. Apple does not have another major iOS release planned for next year. Apple isn't going to make major changes like this with a dot release. Ready or not, the time to release was iOS6. Anyone who knew there was an iOS release knew that Maps had been redesigned. Those people who didn't know there was an iOS release have never upgrade their devices at all.

  • KC7GNM Level 4 Level 4 (2,735 points)

    And only shows your ignorance and dependence on an electronic device to get you from point a to b.

  • imaybeawhile Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)

    etresoft wrote:

     

    imaybeawhile wrote:

     

     

    Just because apple maps might function in a limited capacity without internet doesn't make it useful when it doesn't know the difference between a pig farm and an airport or a restaurant and a brothel.

     

    You may have a point there. I've never used Apple Maps to direct me to any brothels. I suggest you stick with Google for that one.

     

    I think you might find yourself at one if you use apple maps. Google is accurate - I realise there have been a few more posts than the number of fingers and toes you have but pay attention dear sir.