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  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    "I never used the old apple maps app because it sucked and was worthless"

     

    If that is truly how you feel then I'm afraid that whilst I am by no means an expert, you are entirely unqualified to offer any useful evaluation of any Maps app, let alone the new Apple one. Sorry pal.

  • imaybeawhile Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)

    KC7GNM wrote:

     

    I never used the old apple maps app.

     

    Please leave this thread as you are obviously a troll without a valid frame of reference

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    "Apple's contract with Google expires next year anyway. Apple does not have another major iOS release planned for next year. Apple isn't going to make major changes like this with a dot release. Ready or not, the time to release was iOS6. Anyone who knew there was an iOS release knew that Maps had been redesigned. Those people who didn't know there was an iOS release have never upgrade their devices at all."

     

    I see what you're saying - they didn't want to sit the year out and release Maps at iOS 6.1 or whatever. Would've been nice for us though - one more year of Google and another year for them to work on their schizzle.

     

    Incidentally, I've only ever seen in forums that the contract was up in a year. Have Google or Apple ever confirmed this anywhere?

     

    I certainly knew iOS6 was coming and that Maps had been redesigned. I wasn't quite ready for _that_ though :-)

  • KC7GNM Level 4 Level 4 (2,735 points)

    Saiid ever used it for real navigation purposes because it sucked so bad. I am fully qualified to state my opinion. You folks obviously never tried any of the other 3rd party apps because you we're just too cheap to go buy one so you need to leave this thread because there are tons of alternatives in the App Store if you just look

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    LOL.

     

    No, you said,

     

    "I never used the old apple maps app because it sucked and was worthless"

     

    Hmmm. Must go and check my £49 TomTom UK and Western Europe app that I've had since release..

  • imaybeawhile Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)

    etresoft wrote:

     

    Apple's contract with Google expires next year anyway. Apple does not have another major iOS release planned for next year. Apple isn't going to make major changes like this with a dot release. Ready or not, the time to release was iOS6.

     

    Great - and now safari is borked too. IOS 6 really does have a lot to answer for.

    It's rearranged a whole bunch of letters and words in your post to suggest that what you said was apple removed a working product and replaced it with a substandard unfinished product leaving people with a device that doesn't do what it did when they purchased it because the big number changed after a few letters.

  • Whirling22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjBcK41cjZk&sns=em

     

    Apple maps - bringing people together

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (26,550 points)

    imaybeawhile wrote:

     

    apple removed a working product and replaced it with a substandard unfinished product leaving people with a device that doesn't do what it did when they purchased it because the big number changed after a few letters.

    No. Apple removed a play app that really wasn't useful for real-world navigation. Google Maps is a neat tool for looking at maps and playing around. Apple Maps is really useful for navigation. If you are sitting at home with WiFi and looking for obscure places on the earth or in the ocean, by all means, keep using Google Maps. If you actually need to go somewhere, then you have to print out a Google Map to use it. Otherwise, you are going to hit the End of The Earth where "here be dragons".

     

    Come on! Admit it. That is how everyone uses Google maps . It is time to leave the print out at home and use Apple Maps. Then, if you want to deviate from your planned route, go ahead and explore. Apple Maps will always get you back home. Don't try that with Google.

  • narby Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Wow. I found the big thread on this issue now.

     

    If only the new maps did what they were supposed to do.

     

    Multiple times now I've had it reply "no results" (or something to that effect) to map queries, when the reality was that the phone had just dropped internet connection.

     

    Which is one of the other things Apple broke with iOS6, a reasonably reliable internet link.

     

    I waited to upgrade because I had heard of a few map issues. I decided I could make other map apps suffice, and maybe Apple's map wasn't so bad. Just doing wierd 3D projections is understandable, and Google Earth has such glitches anyway.

     

    But my mistake was not researching just how MANY problems iOS6 has. That it virtually makes the phone worthless.

     

    As far as I'm concerned, Apple has stolen a working phone from me, and has the ability (by turning on iOS5 downgrade) to fix it, but refuses to do so for some unknown reason.

     

    Do you realize how enraging that is? Do you?

     

    Every major software release has issues. All of them. And I've lived through it. But iOS6, and Apple's outright refusal to fix it, when the fix is at hand, is a bridge too far.

     

    I'll now start searching for the iOS6 malfunction class action lawsuit. It's going to happen, and I will get my name on the list of victims. Apple stole my working phone, and caused me untold grief.

     

    Apple has a lot of money. The lawyers will arrive.

  • fairhero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Remember that different people use maps in different ways. I don't want to presuppose how others do or should use maps. "Real-world navigation" for me primarily involves finding my way around cities on foot and by public transport. Google Maps on my iPhone has been doing a great job of that for years with no print-outs required. For me (in the UK), Apple Maps just isn't up to the job yet, however good it may be at turn-by-turn navigation for drivers. That's why I'm sad and let down that Google Maps is gone from iOS. I find using Google Maps in Safari is just not as slick, and (like all the non-Apple alternatives) it doesn't integrate with contacts/calendar locations - so whenever I tap an address in contacts/calendar I end up in Apple Maps rather than my preferred map application. The issue offends me so much I sent back a new iPhone 5 without opening the box (but for now I'm stuck with iOS 6 and Apple Maps on my 3GS).

  • gabriel_hc27 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    hi there i think everyone is having the same problem tim cook has talked about it, it wont get better all of a sudden we users need to use the maps app for apple to have feedback, and about the google maps app i dont know if they are going to release an app but mean while you can go to the google maps website and select add to home screen or use alternatives such as waze(I always use these app) for getting directions its pretty good

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (26,550 points)

    narby wrote:

     

    But my mistake was not researching just how MANY problems iOS6 has. That it virtually makes the phone worthless.

    Very true. It isn't just Maps, but Safari too. And Mali, that no longer works. All my Contacts are empty. The only date my Calendar will show is Dec. 21st, 2012. Angry Birds no longer works. My home screen no longer appears, it just says "C:\" instead. Now I am finding cracks, chips, and even holes in the aluminum. Yes, iOS 6 is causing my brand new iPhone 5 to disintegrate before my very eyes! This is typical Apple!

  • narby Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    gabriel_hc27 wrote:

     

    hi there i think everyone is having the same problem tim cook has talked about it, it wont get better all of a sudden we users need to use the maps app for apple to have feedback, and about the google maps app i dont know if they are going to release an app but mean while you can go to the google maps website and select add to home screen or use alternatives such as waze(I always use these app) for getting directions its pretty good

    It's not like the problem is just a feature glitch here or there.

     

    My phone went from smoothly following me on the map (the little blue button), to showing me anywhere BUT where I was. It jumps around, several hundred meters (or several thousands of meters when in the boonies) somewhere else. The old version did that on occasion. GPS receivers get spoofed every now and again. To now it almost never gets the position right and jumps around constantly. You'd think they could have at least put a low pass filter on the bad position.

     

    I've worked for a survey quality high precision GPS company for over a decade. This positioning stuff is some real black magic, and iOS6 killed it. I had been amazed at how good it was before, when I know full well the limitations of the hardware. But with iOS6, the limitations are in their full glory. It can't even find what street I'm on. And since the same core OS service feeds into cell coverage, I suspect that is the root of internet connection problems too.

     

    No doubt the fix will not be simple or cheap or fast. I believe they will have to amass the vast quantities of local RF data that Google acquired while doing it's street view collection. Apple will have to hire some seriously smart people that understand how to correlate RF information from multiple sources with a gigantic database of the 3D universe, and how to write efficient software to do it (I know a few such people, and I'm not one of them).

     

    In short, I don't think they'll pull it off. I think they're going to have to go hat-in-hand to whomever wrote the previous versions and license it again. And after this fiasco, I think it's going to cost them serious money.

  • narby Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    etresoft wrote:

     

    narby wrote:

     

    But my mistake was not researching just how MANY problems iOS6 has. That it virtually makes the phone worthless.

    Very true. It isn't just Maps, but Safari too. And Mali, that no longer works. All my Contacts are empty. The only date my Calendar will show is Dec. 21st, 2012. Angry Birds no longer works. My home screen no longer appears, it just says "C:\" instead. Now I am finding cracks, chips, and even holes in the aluminum. Yes, iOS 6 is causing my brand new iPhone 5 to disintegrate before my very eyes! This is typical Apple!

    Ridiculing customers won't make them go away happy.

     

    Yes, I get it that you're not an actual Apple rep. The company wouldn't be so stupid to hire someone to ridicule customers.

     

    Which brings up the question, what if some third party company WANTED to make Apple customers go away unhappy? They could pay a few professional spammers to amplify the anger over the broken iOS6 on company discussion threads.

     

    Or a bot! Yeah. You're really just a bot written by Google. Right?

     

    Oh. I got it! We're BOTH bots written by Google to make Apple look bad!

     

    Sorry, no. Apple broke the phone that I really liked, and is preventing me from fixing it. And I just really hate it when someone else breaks my stuff.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (26,550 points)

    narby wrote:

     

    Which brings up the question, what if some third party company WANTED to make Apple customers go away unhappy? They could pay a few professional spammers to amplify the anger over the broken iOS6 on company discussion threads.

    Apple Maps or not - you're on the right track now