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  • modular747 Level 6 Level 6 (18,050 points)

    You bet - not seeing the rest of those rooftops will disorient anyone.  How could a human navigate with such a crappy view!

  • modular747 Level 6 Level 6 (18,050 points)
    You would likely let Tim Cook drive your car right off your driveway and still find a way to say he's a great guy.

     

    You wouldn't have the remotest clue what I, or anyone with 3 digits in their IQ would do in any situation.  That's the problem.

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    modular747 wrote:

     

    You bet - not seeing the rest of those rooftops will disorient anyone.  How could a human navigate with such a crappy view!

    And that, Central Florida, is where you just don't get it, even with your preposterous blustering. Maps is not simply, or certainly wasn't, just about A>B navigation. It was about information, research and so much more.

     

    I could trade insults with you all day but I fear for your blood pressure. You like to swoop in here, belittle anyone who thinks Maps is an issue, then get all school-yard when you get some back. IQ? Please. Go make yourself some points helping out on the iCloud threads.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (46,805 points)

    le.bouch wrote:

     

    And that, Central Florida, is where you just don't get it, even with your preposterous blustering. Maps is not simply, or certainly wasn't, just about A>B navigation. It was about information, research and so much more.

     

    Of all the absurd statements made in this debate, that ranks near the top. I would bet navigation is, in fact what Maps is about for most people. People just want to find out how to get somewhere. In fact, many of the complaints about the new geobase is that it doesn't do that as well as people would like.

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Another myopic, Apple-sponsored nincompoop. Can you not read? What I wrote was, and please check it for yourself, "Maps is not simply, or certainly wasn't, just about A>B navigation"

     

    What on earth makes you think you speak for "most people"? You can bet what you like, through your Cupertino-addled, US-centric fog, I care not. I'm pleased that Maps can get you from your Dunkin Donuts to your Best Buy. Enjoy.

     

    Of course Maps (should) help you get from A>B. It also (should) help you explore, show you where things are and otherwise inform you. Read Apple's own glossy copy and see for yourself.

  • John Potts Level 4 Level 4 (3,100 points)

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    le.bouch wrote:

     

    And that, Central Florida, is where you just don't get it, even with your preposterous blustering. Maps is not simply, or certainly wasn't, just about A>B navigation. It was about information, research and so much more.

     

    Of all the absurd statements made in this debate, that ranks near the top. I would bet navigation is, in fact what Maps is about for most people. People just want to find out how to get somewhere. In fact, many of the complaints about the new geobase is that it doesn't do that as well as people would like.

     

    No, I'm afraid that le.bouch is absolutely right and, like the modular747 Central Florida poster, it's you who just doesn't get it. Getting from A to B is certainly important but, as le.bouch says, Maps is not only about navigation.

     

    I (used to) use Maps in cities where I need no help in finding the way from A to B. I know that. What I don't know are the bus and tram departure times from the many public transport stops, nor what restaurants/shops/hotels etc are close to a particular pin drop etc etc etc etc. As le.bouch says, what I need is information, and what I am (was) doing is research.

     

    What Maps doesn't give me is that information. Just to take my home city: now, there is no public transport info. No tram and bus stops are even shown, much less provided with upcoming departure times. The POI information is hopelessly out of date, and usually mislocated. A department store is identified by its cafe, but with the old name of the store (it changed ownership in 2003, just the 9 years ago). A fastfood kiosk is shown (it closed some years ago) but the hotel that is opposite isn't identifed. In fact few hotels are shown. The main station isn't identified as a station, but as a shopping centre. The station has been there for only about 140 years, and has about 30 platforms/tracks and several hundred trains daily, but not to worry. Some phone numbers give the old dialling code that was phased out years ago. (From whom did Apple buy this data?)

     

    You see, we don't all live in the US. We don't all necessarily drive everywhere and need turn by turn navigation to get somewhere. Some people do, and some people don't. I "navigate" cities and towns on foot and/or by public transport. I need to know what and where hotels or restaurants (etc) are, not how to drive to them from Florida.

     

    I couldn't say what "most" people want - you seem to have access to data to support your opinions. Care to share that data? How do you know what most people want? I do know what some people want. There's ample evidence in this thread that people want other things besides naviagation (notice that I wrote besides, not instead of). But you class them (and that) as absurd.

     

    Sorry, Meg - as I said, it's you who just doesn't get it.

  • jonfromdaleville Level 2 Level 2 (440 points)

    Since Meg doesn't get it according to you, then I'm sure a long drawn out post about your city being misrepresented in Apple maps on a user to user technical support forums will get it fixed. Thanks!

  • gkinchina Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Does it really matter who gets it and whether this forum is user to user?

     

    Help is on its way - the fix and solution that the people posting on this forum are looking for is almost here.

     

    While one irresponsible company takes away what we had and refuses to let us roll back, another company (responsible and responsive) is bringing us a solution.

     

    http://www.bgr.com/2012/10/15/google-maps-ios-6-details-leak/

     

    Thank God, Apple can't stop it. Eric Schmidt has already said that Apple must allow it. Apple does not have a choice in the matter.

     

    And, even better - the new app has EVERYTHING that IOS5 Maps had PLUS EVERYTHING that IOS6 Maps wanted to have - great data, vector maps, turn by turn, street view, transit directions and more

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    jonfromdaleville wrote:

     

    Since Meg doesn't get it according to you, then I'm sure a long drawn out post about your city being misrepresented in Apple maps on a user to user technical support forums will get it fixed. Thanks!

    Ah, the old 'go away, this is a user-to-user tech support forum' smoke screen.

     

    The fact that Apple only contribute here through sponsored drones does not mean that they are not aware of the strength of feeling in this and many other threads. Do you really think that Apple would not be aware of comments posted in their own forum?

  • Whirling22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hilarious...

     

    Of course they are aware - my posts to another (new) thread directing an enquiry about this topic to this thread and a similar enquiry regarding ios6 downgrade to the other epic thread was deleted by the 'moderators'

     

    Now that is simply covering up - and what I find amusing is that the email trail and notification I get from apple telling me that my post has been removed because it is inappropriate contains the post itself.  Nothing inappropriate at all - simply telling others that haven't searched before re-posting the same question has been covered here.

    The reason it is being deleted of course is to try to prevent those new posters realising that they are not alone -  the usual culprits shout them down and tell them that there is no problem of course....

  • modular747 Level 6 Level 6 (18,050 points)

    And that, Central Florida, is where you just don't get it, even with your preposterous blustering. Maps is not simply, or certainly wasn't, just about A>B navigation. It was about information, research and so much more.

     

    I could trade insults with you all day but I fear for your blood pressure.

    We all do get it.  We get that this thread is infested with "members" who've posted the same righteous drivel 500 times each, with the delusion that if they keep saying the same thing over and over, it will get a different result.  Classically lacking any analytic skills or insight, even their "retorts" are encrusted by sub-moronic cliches.  Get a map and move on with your life, such as it is.

  • justjesper Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    LOL

    Level 6 users are getting desperate trying to stop frustrated users. Amazing how bad they threat new users who come to this site.

    Sadly all they find here is no help from Apple or high level users.

     

    When Google comes out with the new map for the ios6, Can we buy this from the google app store ?

    Can I download from there app store and not use apple's app store ?

  • Nogueira Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    While Google is going up , Apple is going down .

  • Nogueira Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    justjesper wrote:

     

    LOL

    Level 6 users are getting desperate trying to stop frustrated users. Amazing how bad they threat new users who come to this site.

    Sadly all they find here is no help from Apple or high level users.

     

     

    You are completely right, and I would just like to compliment giving and advice for the new users who come to this site: Do not feel intimidated by the watchdogs, they howl but don't bite.

  • le.bouch Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    modular747 wrote:

     

    And that, Central Florida, is where you just don't get it, even with your preposterous blustering. Maps is not simply, or certainly wasn't, just about A>B navigation. It was about information, research and so much more.

     

    I could trade insults with you all day but I fear for your blood pressure.

    We all do get it.  We get that this thread is infested with "members" who've posted the same righteous drivel 500 times each, with the delusion that if they keep saying the same thing over and over, it will get a different result.  Classically lacking any analytic skills or insight, even their "retorts" are encrusted by sub-moronic cliches.  Get a map and move on with your life, such as it is.

    If I could be bothered, I would enquire who "we" are? I would ask if you speak on behalf of others or are you from Apple after all?

     

    Presumably, you are a member here, whilst I and others not Cupertino-blinded are mere "members" (your emphasis) - somewhat beneath you?

     

    In the future you will read your posts back and cringe at what a sanctimonious half-wit you really are. You are vacuously campaigning on behalf of a billion dollar corporation who could not care less whether your last breath is spent humping your Maps-crippled iPad. What a waste of your life, "such as it is."

     

    And for your further education, something is encrusted with, not by. Bye!