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  • modular747 Level 6 Level 6 (15,715 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 8:35 AM (in response to imaybeawhile)

    perhaps one day apple may release an app to do the same. When it does I look forward the grumpy old men whining about back in their day when they used to balance a leaf and a pin on a pool of melted snow...

     

    Your compulsive Apple bashing, now extending to the hypothetical, reinforces your role as troll - nothing useful or constructive to contribute to anyone here.  I'm sure your drones and alteregos snicker and snort each time your repeat yourself - I'm waiting for a congratulatory post from another user ID...  As for the "grumpy old men" - you brought that on yourself with that moronic reference to the "2004" ad...

     

     

    As for time wasting - seriously... the apple lemmings that will defend apple to the end regardless of how ridiculous they sound that keep posting here are the ones wasting their time.

     

    Yes, the troll-compelled impulse to make dismissive remarks about anyone not within their sphere of influence.  I never defended Apple or iMaps.  What I did do was point out the grotesquely bloated sense of entitlement (possibly the "norm" in social democrat EU-land) that produced the hyperbolic rants, endlessly repeating beyond any concept of nausea in this pointless thread.

     

    These are the facts of life, like it or not:

     

    1. Apple will NEVER replace their iMaps with Google Maps

    2. Apple will NEVER allow downgrading the iOS

    3. Apple will NEVER grant any future Google Map app (or any other 3rd party app of any type) default, iOS-integrated status.

    4. iOS Maps will improve accuracy over time.  Whether or not it's quick or complete enough to suit you is of absolutely no consequence.

     

    I'm roaming through Europe on a train as we speak with my Samsung galaxy and google maps, iPad and iPhone - get your community support friends to check my ip....

     

    Why-o-why do you bother with the iPhone/iPad when you already have those wonderful Samsung devices?  Why don't you just sell all that Apple crap?  Unless you're truly "challenged", the only rational explanation is that Samsung pays you to post here as their agent, despite humiliating and degrading yourself repeatedly. 

  • imaybeawhile Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:29 AM (in response to modular747)

    The only person humiliating and degrading themselves here is you central Florida

     

    I'm not telling you to go away or to sell your apple crap. Only you seem to be doing this because that is your answer to solving the problem. I guess I should be pleased that you are not able to exercise your rights regarding the 2nd amendment in my presence... right now... Eeek!

     

    My post wasn't deleted for being offensive. Please refrain from lowering the tone and calm down. Appreciate that I have kept my iPhone and encourage others to because its purty, mighty purty... ;) and I want to continue using it.

     

    I will even say out loud its better than the Samsung in every way - except for the lack of google maps. Now a Samsung troll wouldn't do that now would they....

     

    Oh and for the recorded - you are not apple so don't presume to know what they will or will not do in the future - it contravenes the ToS :p

  • modular747 Level 6 Level 6 (15,715 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 9:55 AM (in response to imaybeawhile)

    Nothing I have said violates the forum ToU, yet you and your comrades repeatedly violate it with your editorializing about Apple policies and exectutives, at the same time makeing demands that Apple change them.

     

    As far as what I said Apple won't do - it's all been officially announced by Apple - not at all speculation on my part.  Their "apology" about the maps outlined their response which does not include reverting to Google.  Their policy about disallowing downgrading the iOS is clearly stated in multiple support documents.  The policy about 3rd party apps and integration in the iOS is also clearly stated.  It's all there, only you won't let the reality sink in.  Apple has never reversed major policy and operational decisions such as these in the past.  Don't hold your breath.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (23,905 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 11:01 AM (in response to imaybeawhile)

    imaybeawhile wrote:

     

    The only person humiliating and degrading themselves here is you central Florida

     

    Are you sure about that?

     

    imaybeawhile wrote:

     

    ...Enjoy travelling down the road to Walmart with your iMap

    ...how pathetically small minded you are.

    ...Just because the aisle you are responsible for stacking doesn't move doesn't mean you can tar us all with the same brush.

     

    My post wasn't deleted for being offensive. Please refrain from lowering the tone and calm down.

     

    So why was your post deleted? You have to get pretty bad for the hosts to wade into a 131 page mud-filled cesspool like this one and start editing and deleting posts.

     

    Personally, my favourite quote is this one:

     

    You accuse me of parroting other trolls

     

    If modular747 accused you of that, I completely disagree. You are your own troll. Don't let anyone say otherwise.

  • iforumuser Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 11:24 AM (in response to modular747)

    modular747 wrote:

     

    Their policy about disallowing downgrading the iOS is clearly stated in multiple support documents.
    The policy about 3rd party apps and integration in the iOS is also clearly stated.

    Could you please point to where we can find and read this information? Thanks

  • imaybeawhile Level 2 Level 2 (400 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 1:44 PM (in response to iforumuser)

    I hope you weren't expecting them to provide you with an answer iforumuser - that's not why they loiter here.

     

    Etresoft must have gone back to living the dream in suburbia trying to write apps as good as iMaps with his years of developer experience.

  • tonefox Level 5 Level 5 (7,700 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 2:24 PM (in response to imaybeawhile)

    Such transparent trolling. No, I will not be involved. Although an obvious victim right now, I shall not be drawn in further. I do however reserve the right to follow this thread for the obvious  entertainment available from posters competing to see how many toys might be thrown from prams before one poster or the other  implodes from the sheer uselessness of the "conversation".

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,395 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 2:31 PM (in response to iforumuser)

    -> http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Xcode/Conceptual/ios_devel opment_workflow/10-Configuring_Development_and_Distribution_Assets/identities_an d_devices.html

    "Important: After you upgrade a device’s OS, you cannot downgrade it, that is, you cannot install an earlier release of iOS on your device."

     

    -> iOS App programming guide

    "Communicating with Other Apps

    Apps that support custom URL schemes can use those schemes to receive messages. Some apps use URL schemes to initiate specific requests. For example, an app that wants to show an address in the Maps app can use a URL to launch that app and display the address. You can implement your own URL schemes to facilitate similar types of communications in your apps.

    Apple provides built-in support for the http, mailto, tel, and sms URL schemes. It also supports http–based URLs targeted at the Maps, YouTube, and iPod apps. The handlers for these schemes are fixed and cannot be changed. If your URL type includes a scheme that is identical to one defined by Apple, the Apple-provided app is launched instead of your app.

  • duckdive Calculating status...
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    Nov 26, 2012 3:45 PM (in response to Chris CA)

    The title of this thread is "Apple Maps Very dissapointing."

     

    Just a reminder, that in this thread, there is a sideshow taking place. But if you came here to help form a decision on whehter to buy an iphone or to upgrade to ios6, my personal opinion is no. If like me, you use maps regularly, and rely on reliable data, Apple Maps is very very dissapointing. For me, having used Apple products for the last 13 years, Apple Maps is the worst software ive ever used from this company. It simply doesnt work as well as Google Maps. Usually, this would not be a problem. I coudl use another application. Unfortunately, the map application is integrated into the Operating System. So what this means for the user is that every time you click a contact for example, the Apple Maps application will open. Often, Apple Maps will return a "No Results Found" or even worse, it will show a result but will be in the wrong place. Or perhaps you are looking at Urbanspoon and click on an address link, the same thing will happen. So now, every time you want to use an address, you have to copy the address, open up another mapping application and paste the address into the map application of your choice.

     

    For some users, it appears apple maps is ok. Id imagine that they are not peope who rely on reliable mapping data to navigate regularly to compeltely unfamiliar areas. It also appears, that some users in the US in limited areas are having a good time with Apple Maps.

     

    It is in my opinion, that if users were given a choice to integrate the mapping application they prefered, there would only be Modular 747 using Apple Maps. It is a terrible application simply because the data is terrible. Compared to the old google maps application, it is a rollback to a time when mapping was a work in progress. Google maps, althoug still a work in progress is a very impressive data set that navigates people regularly in am most reliable fashion. There is no business user today relying on the data of Apple Maps. Apple Maps is a toy.

     

    It has been suggested that the iphone is not a GPS unit and if you want reliable mapping information, you shold buy a dedicated GPS. Pervious to upgrading to ios6, my iphone 4s was the most brilliant GPS i could ever have owned. Google Maps worked perfectly in Indonesia, Singapore and Australia. I never once had any issues with it. What possible reason would there have been to buy a dedicated GPS. And still today, there is no reason. The combination of WAZE and Quick Route on my iphone 4s navigate me perfectly everywhere. The problem is now simply that of lack of integration. Apple has forced a lemmon on us in Apple Maps so every time we want to use our chosen mapping service, we have to go throgh the frustration of avoiding Apple Maps.

     

    If there were an alternative to the iphone, I would ditch my iphone on principle. After 13 years of loving all my apple products, this mapping issue has pushed me over the edge. Unfortunately, at present, no company comes close to the iphone regarding the integration of hardware and software.

     

    Conclusion, I will have to live with the frustration of this mapping issue. For me, 30 percent of the phone use is mapping related. I hope someone works out a way to bypass the Apple limitation of setting a default mapping application. If i can choose my default mapping application, I wouldnt have to suffer another of central Floridas posts......

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,395 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 5:33 PM (in response to duckdive)

    duckdive wrote:

     

    The title of this thread is "Apple Maps Very dissapointing."

    Okay.

    I was responding to iforumuser.

  • lkrupp Level 4 Level 4 (3,085 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 6:39 PM (in response to duckdive)

    duckdive wrote:

     

    Conclusion, I will have to live with the frustration of this mapping issue. For me, 30 percent of the phone use is mapping related. I hope someone works out a way to bypass the Apple limitation of setting a default mapping application. If i can choose my default mapping application, I wouldnt have to suffer another of central Floridas posts......

     

    It would seem your conclusion is that Apple Maps will never, ever improve. It is what it is and will never get any better no matter how many resources Apple dedicates to it. Other software makers are constantly improving their products, issuing updates, correcting errors and fixing bugs. But not Apple, right? Apple released its maps app and promptly abandoned it, stopping all further development. This is what you are saying in effect in your long winded rants and diatribes.

     

    Obviously I would disagree with that assertion and so would most.

  • duckdive Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 7:03 PM (in response to lkrupp)

    Again, the title of this thread is Apple Maps Very Disappointing. Ill leave it to you to dissect my threads, words and assertions. I try to be clear.

     

    Keeping it on topic, Apple Maps is terrible. What it will be one day is anybodys guess. None of us have crystal balls. What we do know is today, Google Maps is the gold standard. Apple maps is at the very bottom end of reliable mapping. Perhaps one day it will improve. That is not why I ever owned Apple products for the last 13 years. Every one of my apple products over the last 13 years was perfect out of the box. The very first iMac rev B, the tangerine iBook, my G4 tower, an iMac Flat Screen, a white Macbook, another iMac which im using today along with my Macbook Pro and my iphone 4s. All of them worked perfectly out of the box with no constraints.

     

    This iphone 4s was amazing until the upgrade to ios6. Google maps on some days was by far the most used feature on my iphone 4s and it worked amazingly well. Upon upgrading to ios6, Apple Maps was forced on me. (There is no option for integrated mapping, you are forced to have Apple Maps as the default and only integrated map. There is no way around this.) Apple Maps is the worst Apple product I have ever used. It doesnt work out of the box. It ruins the user experience completely. To have "No Results Found" when typing requests or clicking links on a regular basis makes a mockery of "it just works." It doesnt work, it is unreliable as often it takes you to a location far off target. Apple maps is a toy.

     

    Perhaps one day apple maps may improve. Today Google Maps is the gold standard. Today, apple maps is a toy.

  • lkrupp Level 4 Level 4 (3,085 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 7:06 PM (in response to duckdive)

    duckdive wrote:

     

    Today Google Maps is the gold standard. Today, apple maps is a toy.

     

    In your opinion only. Stating personal opinion as fact doesn't make it fact.

  • Bobdc6 Calculating status...
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    Nov 26, 2012 7:16 PM (in response to lkrupp)

    Here's Cnet's opinion:

     

    "The bottom line: Apple Maps now has functional turn-by-turn navigation and gorgeous 3D Flyover features, but lack of public transit directions, shoddy details on maps, and distorted 3D views in some areas make this app mostly unusable until there's an update."

     

    "The bottom line: With its impressive list of features and syncing of data across other devices, Google Maps is a must-have application for anyone running Android."

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,395 points)
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    Nov 26, 2012 7:55 PM (in response to Bobdc6)

    Bobdc6 wrote:

     

    Here's Cnet's opinion:

     

    "The bottom line: Apple Maps now has functional turn-by-turn navigation and gorgeous 3D Flyover features, but lack of public transit directions, shoddy details on maps, and distorted 3D views in some areas make this app mostly unusable until there's an update."

     

    "The bottom line: With its impressive list of features and syncing of data across other devices, Google Maps is a must-have application for anyone running Android."

    Okay, but teh bottom line is we are running iOS, not Android.

     

    Google did not want to let Apple use most of the "impressive list of features".

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