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Apr 24, 2013 6:33 AM in response to fromsouthby placebo333,As it can be fixed by resoldering the wifi chip, it's a Hardware Problem.
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Apr 24, 2013 7:03 AM in response to Trapdoresothby darkstar49,I confirm, it's HW... (sad, but true...) There's no way to (permantly) fix this without reflowing the WiFi chip.
I got confused at the beginning, because it often appeared after a SW upgrade, and because Apple is supposed to have said (???) that some iOS versions could cause harm to the WiFi IC... (if they said that, which I doubt meanwhile, they're probably more incompetent than in our worst nightmare... :-)
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Apr 24, 2013 7:06 AM in response to Trapdoresothby darkstar49,The real question now is whether or not the WiFi IC got damaged by the fact that it was not soldered properly...
Reflowing/reballing is not easy, but some repair shops can do it...
But managing to get a new WiFi IC is something totally different, and probably nearly impossible...
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Apr 24, 2013 8:58 AM in response to Trapdoresothby oslu61,This is not my fault. I don't care whatever this is a hardware or software problem. My 4s suddenly broke down. Maybe I did a fault with buying Apple !!
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Apr 24, 2013 9:05 AM in response to oslu61by placebo333,Finally found a repair shop in germany who is specialized in Logicboard stuff (small parts). He will fix my devices for 60€. He confirmed that it happens very often on the iPhone 4s and that the wifi chip looses contact to the board and needs resoldering. Good news!
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Apr 24, 2013 10:03 AM in response to placebo333by darkstar49,Could you please give us the address and or website of this shop ??
Regards
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Apr 24, 2013 10:16 AM in response to placebo333by fromsouth,placebo333 wrote:
Finally found a repair shop in germany who is specialized in Logicboard stuff (small parts). He will fix my devices for 60€. He confirmed that it happens very often on the iPhone 4s and that the wifi chip looses contact to the board and needs resoldering. Good news!
I am very happy for you Placebo. Price sounds a little steep, may be try to search a little more. I mean I can see like 30 bucks. But you are talking like over $100.
BTW - I know it is a hardware, was just teasing the darkstar a bit. His foundations for threats to Apple looked so hilarious. But may be that is just cause I am very uneducated.
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Apr 24, 2013 11:40 AM in response to fromsouthby darkstar49,well, in fact, we're all so ****** off by Apple's attitude, that most of us are becoming pretty uneducated while being here...
Btw, 60€ look quite reasonable to me... Apple's only proposal up to now is the 199€ phone replacement, but like many others, I'm not willing to give Apple a single cent for fixing this issue... I could give anyone 199€ to fix this, just not to Apple !
And when we're at it, what do you mean with "his foundations for threats to Apple..." ?? My english surely isn't perfect, but that statement is definitely beyond my understanding...
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Apr 24, 2013 2:12 PM in response to darkstar49by fromsouth,darkstar49 wrote:
And when we're at it, what do you mean with "his foundations for threats to Apple..." ?? My english surely isn't perfect, but that statement is definitely beyond my understanding...
let me show what I mean:
"Apple's attitude is just scandalous given the sheer number of complaints !!!"
"I've spent quite some years writing embedded software" - that one was when you were explaining to us that software is a problem...
"some usable error message and/or message in some error log"
"Wake-up Apple developers !!!"
" imagine the iPhone 4s would be the heart of a plane's flight computer !!!"
"No one would fly Apple anymore !!!!"
"Sound stupid to you ?? Don't think so... this is the kind of question any serious developer should ask to himself..." Once again you were proving software problem.
"they're wrong, so wrong they can't even imagine..."
I think those Pearls speak for themselves. BTW, I never told you to pay or not to pay. I was making suggestion to placebo, I personally would take time and look around, talk to repair guys about warranty period, before making decision to go with apple or independent. You are more then welcome to do or buy anything you d like and use it or put it inside of "heart of plane's computer." Now if you don't mind, since you made me to read it again, I am going to go fall of the chair and LMAO.
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Apr 24, 2013 3:09 PM in response to fromsouthby darkstar49,Waow !!! I'm impressed... working at Apple, huh ?? Or got paid to **** off disappointed customers ??
But you're probably right... laughing, talking (********) and looking around is surely a good method to get a BGA solder problem fixed, 'must some new american method...
I hope you didn't get hurt while falling off the chair, it's such a pleasure to hear about you, and reading your very constructive comments !
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Apr 28, 2013 1:03 AM in response to Trapdoresothby GhostedMustang12,I'm starting to get sick of Apples ****! I've beent to the apple store 4 times in the last month. Now my WiFi is greyed out but it was doing just fine earlier in the day, and not to mention since upgrading to this garbage *** iOS 6 system I am now having constant call failures. I know it's not my phone because I went into apple to get a brand new 4S to see if it fixed the problem and it didn't. If anyone can tell me how to fix either one of these issues please tell me ASAP
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Apr 28, 2013 3:05 AM in response to Trapdoresothby gongfirst,OK this is sound very very stupid way, but it's work! I found on iPhone user website in Thailand. They turn off the phone , put iPhone in zip bag and keep them in freezer for 5 minutes.
at the beginning I really scare of losing my iPhone 4s, but after suffering from this problem for months, So I did it! and it's work!
Try it on your own risk, It's work for me.
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Apr 29, 2013 7:59 AM in response to Trapdoresothby trentondouglas,I'm not sure if this was mentioned here, but I found this on another thread and it worked for me:
1. turn Airplane mode ON
2. turn phone OFF, wait at least 10 minutes (I left over night).
3. power up phone, turn airplane mode OFF
I did this after a couple of resets. I'm not sure if it made a dfference, but it worked.
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Apr 30, 2013 5:22 AM in response to Trapdoresothby jklasdfjklasdjkl,Always elevate to a senior engineer!!! None of the troubleshooting steps worked and phone was out of warranty by 40 days. On third call to support, finally got to a senior engineer and she did a remote diagnostic that showed this occurred within minutes of the iOS update. Rather than charge me the $199 to fix the 'hardware issue' and have me flip out, she sent me the new phone at no cost.
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Apr 30, 2013 5:34 AM in response to Trapdoresothby macandmercedes,This is such a common problem which needs to be fixed ASAP.