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  • 465. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    spanks127 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Deepcover, I hope you are right, but that was not a chance I was willing to take.   If they don't patch it,  what do you do?  Then you're stuck.

  • 466. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    crankerchick Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Well, stuck isn't entirely true. One reason I took a spin with the iPhone 5 is because iPhone's keep enough value to sell if one finds they aren't happy. It will be easy enough to sell the iPhone later and switch to an Android or WP8 device if issues aren't resolved to the user's satisfaction.

     

    As I paid outright for my iPhone 5, I'll probably take a little loss, but I will also have used the phone for however long, and nothing, of course, is free. Consider it a rental charge.

  • 467. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,705 points)

    apu2009 wrote:

     

    I just saw this: http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-6.0.1-for-iphone-ipad-ipod-touch-currently-being-a ctively-tested-ios-6.1-expected-after-christmas-holidays/

     

    Are there any people with access to that beta firmware that can confirm if the issue has been fixed?

     

    No, as if they have access to it, it would be a violation of their NDA to discuss it.

  • 468. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    proH03 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    For those of us with european Pioneer units, they have released the European Compatability Chart:

     

    http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/landing/products/update/car-io6.html

  • 469. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    proH03 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    And interestingly, their is a difference with the terminology on the EU site.

     

    EU: BT software update needed (To Be Announced)

    US: FW Update Required - ETA TBA

     

    So it looks like it is Pioneer's fault and they will be releasing updates for the head units... and iOS 6.0.1 is not what we are looking for...

  • 470. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    crankerchick Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    iOS 6.0.1 was likely never what we were looking for anyway.

     

    While people with Pioneer,aftermarket radios might get an update, there are a vast number of people who just have their OEM equipment that has ceased to function. I'm sure a good bit of them honestly don't care who's fault it is, they just want their stuff to work. Further, they know it worked before, and it doesn't now, and they are going to be (or already are) huffing in Apple's direction, not their bluetooth OEM.

     

    Apple would do well to put back whatever they changed because it seems to me there are for more people that are going to be in the SOL camp than there are that will be in the camp that sees an update from their device manufacturer.

     

    What I'm saying is, even if it isn't Apple that messed up, if they have the capability to fix it with a software update, they should probably do that. I believe someone already posted that historically Apple hasn't done this, but this time, I hope they do. It's just much easier (and saves face) if they fix everyone's problem with a software update, rather than depend on device manufacturers (who will traditionally say EFF-YOO to their users). The average person isn't going to say, "It worked before, and now it doesn't, it must be my device OEM that messed up." They are going to place the blame on Apple and the update, whether that is true or not.

     

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  • 471. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,705 points)

    crankerchick wrote:

     

    Apple would do well to put back whatever they changed because it seems to me there are for more people that are going to be in the SOL camp than there are that will be in the camp that sees an update from their device manufacturer.

     

    What I'm saying is, even if it isn't Apple that messed up, if they have the capability to fix it with a software update, they should probably do that.

     

    Alas, Apple's very likely not going to do that as they're already using features of the new standard and as such won't go backwards. Apple (and other companies) don't adopt new standards for the sake of it, they do so because they want to use the new functionality it brings.

     

    It's painful, I know, but I really don't see how it would be done otherwise; as I mentioned previously its inevitable the same devices will have the same problems with future Android releases.

     

    If the problem is isolated to particular device operations, Apple might be able to code around it but I wouldn't hold your breath (it would likely be nearly impossible for them to determine which devices had problems and such which data streams need to be sent to which device.)

  • 472. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    clsebrown Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I dont think anybody is asking apple to go backwards, but backwards compatability is expected for current 2012 HU's!

  • 473. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    gleep52 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just got off the phone with Pioneer's tech support.  They confirmed there were changes made to iOS6's bluetooth functionality that disabled the track control, though playback is still functional.  They apologized and are looking into it from there end if there is anyway to get it working, but the ball is really in Apple's court to get this AVRPC working.  It looks like they either didn't add avrpc or lost the backwards compatibility if they upgraded it... either way, looks like we are waiting on Apple to fix it.

     

    Apple - please acknowledge and fix this simple problem.  Thanks!

  • 474. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    crankerchick Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    So many differing answers...

  • 475. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,705 points)

    clsebrown wrote:

     

    I dont think anybody is asking apple to go backwards, but backwards compatability is expected for current 2012 HU's!

     

    For most, they already are, or firmware updates are in progress by the headend vendors.

     

    For example, iOS 6 devices have no issues with current Microsoft SYNC systems in Ford products, for better or worse.

  • 476. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    Coasterby Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    All, this posting is specifically for those with a Parrot device and might also be relevant for those with third-party devices that license Parrot's bluetooth technology.  I had read a couple of quick postings (one in this thread and one in another thread) that mentioned that the bluetooth control and track info issue was resolved after they restored their device and set up as a new iPhone, and then synced apps and music.  This is in contrast to the typical method of upgrading to iOS6 (which also goes for those that have purchased an iPhone 5), which is restoring the device from backup.  Anyway, last night I restored the device and set up as a new iPhone, etc.  I'm pleased to say that this has improved my bluetooth experience with the iPhone 5 and Parrot device, but it's not 100%.  Let me explain: when I first purchased the Parrot device a couple of years ago and was using it with my iPhone 3GS, the track info and controls wouldn't kick in every time the devices paired and I started music.  Once in a while (I'd say one out of every 6 times) I would start music and wouldn't have these features.  This was subsequently fixed by either a Parrot firmware update or an iOS update, I'm not sure which one, but it eventually stopped happening and I didn't notice right away to be able to identify the fix.  Anyway, I'm am now again experiencing this same issue with the iPhone 5 on the latest Parrot mki firmware 2.11.  That said, this restore and set up as new device was a big improvement for me as I at least get the features working 80% of the time.  I encourage people to try it - the sync really doesn't take that long, in fact it's the same time as restoring.  The downside is that you have to apply your custom settings again, but interestingly when I entered my iCloud username/password a lot of my custom settings were applied automatically (I guess iCloud stores this info).

  • 477. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    Coasterby Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    All, really sorry about this, but please ignore my post above (made on Oct 26 @ 9:48 am).  It turns out the 'set up as new' process did not improve the behaviour of my iPhone 5 with the Parrot.  The behaviour is really odd.  If I turn on my car stereo and pair for the first time in hours, I won't get a proper connection with controls and track info.  I can then disconnect the bluetooth connection and reconnect and it will resume with proper functioning.  If I then turn my stereo off (turn the car off) and turn it back on, I'll get proper functioning from the get go.  This will happen no matter how many times I turn it off and back on.  However, if I then leave my car for hours, do a bunch of things with my iPhone and come back to the car and turn turn the stereo on and connect, the control and track info are missing again and I have to disconnect the bluetooth connection and reconnect to get proper functioning.  I guess this is a lesson in what can happen when you rely on devices for fringe uses, i.e. those of us that rely on the iPhone for bluetooth car stereo music streaming are by far the minority of iPhone users (probably less than 5%) and Apple can afford to make us unhappy to accomodate their own agenda regarding other features.  The rumous is that the bluetooth chip they're using is not a standard bluetooth chip but rather a new chip that better suits Apple's needs for airstream.  Lesson learned.  Perhaps a future jailbreak app will deal with this.

  • 478. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    Dr Agonlord Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My biggest frustration is that of it having been a working item until IOS 6. But it is made worse as I stupidly fitted my head unit without writing down the units serial number. In my car it was a total nightmare, with limited room and extra wiring for the steering controls making things ever more complicated. Now I find I cannot say anything about this current issue on the Pioneer DEH-6400bt as I need my serial number to be able to add it to any review of the unit on their site. I wouldnt have been bad about it, just a genuine review with the info that IOS 6 has undone some of the bluetooth functionality the unit once had. I only hope that if Pioneer do a firmware update, those of us without a serial number will still be able to access the actual firmware update. If not it will be another day wasted taking the damned thing out for the sake of the 30 seconds it takes to check the number and put it back. I never even thought to write the damned number down. ANother lesson learned I suppose

  • 479. Re: bluetooth music issues after iOS6 update
    drewe2000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No chance the serial number is on the box somewhere? (if you have that) Just a shot...

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