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External monitor = blurry fonts

Hi,


Im quite satisfied with my first OSX product, a macbook pro 13". But i want to use it mainly with my 27" external Samsung LCD, which is

quite frustrating as the fonts are totaly blurry compared to Win7.


Things of interest:


Macbook Pro 13" Mid 2012

OSX = Montain Lion 10.8.2

Adapter: Official Apple Adapter mini-dvi -> HDMI

Ext.Monitor resolution: 1920x1080 native

Tried changing the fonts with Tinkertool

Tried changing the font smoothing via System settings and Tinkertool

Tried changing my monitors settings (AV/PC, sharpness, etc)


On the macbook everything looks fine.


Any hint?


Thanks

Phil

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Sep 20, 2012 6:20 AM

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Posted on Feb 1, 2017 8:24 AM

Hi guys,


Just got myself a external monitor (Dell 24" UltraSharp u2417h) and plugged in my MacBook Pro Retina 15" Late-2013 using DP. To my great disappointment text and fonts look extremely blurred and not with a good definition, I can't stand reading anything on it.


I tried doing some research but I didn't get to any conclusions.


Space in set RGB in my Color Profile, so I guess running that script would not have any effect. I'm running Sierra.


Is this kind of monitor not compatible with Retina?


Can someone please let me know what should I do?


thanks

Thomas

61 replies

Jan 30, 2013 7:46 AM in response to Phil2003

Possible resolution for some users:


I running Lion on my MBP and have run into the same issue described here with an external Samsung monitor.

Adapter is a thunderbolt-HDMI (I did not have an issue with the thunderbolt-DVI)


To resolve the blurry font issue I had to change the video mode from 1080p to the max available resolution setting which for me was 1680 x 1050 (60Hz)

I know this isn't ideal but it fixes the blurry text issue nicely.

Mar 20, 2013 5:38 AM in response to aron77

Thank you for the ireckon link. It worked for me using a ViewSonic external monitor.


HOWEVER......THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL STEP


Be SURE that your external monitor's input is set to "PC" rather than "AV". I am using a thuderbolt to HDMI adaptor to connect to my monitor's HDMI input. The default setting for this is "AV" by which I think treats the signal as a TV 1080p resolution rather than a monitor 1920x 1080. Even after forcing the MAC to send a RGB signal, the text remained blurry until I switched the input to PC.


Also, make sure that the monitor display is set to RGB rather than YUV mode (TV mode).


Hope that helps somebody.


And again, the question remains: Why does Apple Central make it so difficult to play nicely in the sandbox with non-Apple products.......

Mar 20, 2013 5:39 AM in response to Phil2003

Thank you for the ireckon link. It worked for me using a ViewSonic external monitor.


HOWEVER......THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL STEP


Be SURE that your external monitor's input is set to "PC" rather than "AV". I am using a thuderbolt to HDMI adaptor to connect to my monitor's HDMI input. The default setting for this is "AV" by which I think treats the signal as a TV 1080p resolution rather than a monitor 1920x 1080. Even after forcing the MAC to send a RGB signal, the text remained blurry until I switched the input to PC.


Also, make sure that the monitor display is set to RGB rather than YUV mode (TV mode).


Hope that helps somebody.


And again, the question remains: Why does Apple Central make it so difficult to play nicely in the sandbox with non-Apple products.......

Oct 5, 2013 7:12 AM in response to Phil2003

***Update*** In addition to executing

defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 2

The final step for my configuration was "Overscanning". I had to set overscanning to none in the Apple Display preferences then go through the menu settings on my monitor and set overscanning to "off". After the two software and one hardware adjustments the external display is quite crisp and exactly what I would expect from a high dollar external display.

Dec 11, 2013 1:03 PM in response to FeatureHog

It's not about the cable. It's about OS X thinking whatever is connected through HDMI must be a television set and if it's DVI (even through a HDMI->DVI cable) it must be a computer monitor (resulting into a sharp output in the RGB color space). Now I can somehow understand that (but I really have to try hard), but the fact it treats DisplayPort the same way (unless it's an Apple Cinema Display of course) is not acceptable. At least the workaround still works with Mavericks...

May 22, 2014 1:24 PM in response to WallabyWeb

Switching to DVI (using that mini display port -> DVI adapter) worked for me too! Fonts looked terrible when I connected both of my monitors to my new 15" MacBook Pro via HDMI, but when I bought that adapter and used a DVI cable, the problem was solved. First I tried the various other solutions posted in this and other threads (downloading and running a script etc.)


Chris

May 23, 2014 3:43 PM in response to Phil2003

This problem is mostly not cable related, particularly for me. I am using dual screens into my retina MBP. One is HDMI to thunderbolt and the other is DVI to Thunderbolt. The problem is very noticable fuzzy fonts (very depressing). If I have Windows in Parallels open on either of the monitors then I have absolutely no issues with font rendering. So there's definitely an issue with the OS X setup. (Same goes for if I load up Linux in the VM, fonts look great)


If you're using an HDMI connection to a monitor then that HDMI fix for using RGB and telling OS X the monitor is a PC monitor and not a TV really well but the font issue is only improved on, not fixed.

May 23, 2014 5:49 PM in response to db386

I have the same situation. You described it accurately. I have tried the scripts as well as the fixes posted by Amthenia. OSX fonts are still fuzzy and unacceptable.


I find it very frustrating that Apple hasn't fixed this (and over a year has gone by), yet when I run Windows in Parallels or VMWare's Fusion, the Windows system doesn't have this problem? Weird.


It's hard to believe that in this age of HDMI and Thunderbolt, Apple still has trouble handling external displays. This one is a deal breaker.

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