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time machine slow in 10.7.5

Since updating to 10.7.5 using the Combo updater, Time Machine on my iMac seems much slower. Anyone else seeing this behavior?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.5), iMac 21.5 in.; i5; iPad 32Gb iOS 5.

Posted on Sep 21, 2012 7:23 AM

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Sep 23, 2012 1:41 PM in response to Larry Nolan

I've spend most of the weekend trying to figure out why a new internal 3TB drive in my Mac Pro 2012 wouldn't work as a backup drive with Time Machine.


Now I finally realize that it's all about the Lion 10.7.5 update, and nothing to do with my new 3TB drive!


Because it's a new drive, I'm doing the first backup of 250GB, which Time Machine estimates to take approx 600 days!


Apple Inc. - you owe me a weekend, and a fix very soon.


Think I'm going to try the tip about the disabling of Spotlight in the meantime..

Sep 23, 2012 1:55 PM in response to Larry Nolan

I had a set of backups starting with a clean install, basic apps installed, all apps and system tweaked with lion 10.7.4.


After installing 10.7.5 updates i started having kernel panics everytime i left the computer in a busy task and the screen went sleep


I tried to make a time machine backup of the current 10.7.5 OS and the process not only was extremly slow, i had kernel panic during the process and ALL MY PREVIOUS WELL PLANNED BACKUPS were DELETED.


This the second major (inacceptable) problem i had with this system, the other reported here https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4318073?start=0&tstart=0


im back to 10.7.4

Sep 23, 2012 1:57 PM in response to Oliver Eke

If you disable Spotlight using the following command from within Terminal, Time Machine backups return to normal speed;


sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist


Once this has been resolved, you'll be able to re-enable Spotlight with the following command;


sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

Sep 23, 2012 2:09 PM in response to Larry Nolan

Here I go again.

After using spotless to disable spotlight, I was able to back up my 335gb data in a reasonable amount of time.

I have done some testing minimal and I could see that TM backup works correctly. see one of my previous posts.

To finish this off, I deleted all index files.

I removed all drives except the system drive, and reactivated spotlight.

It started indexing again.

After the indexing went on overnight ( i did not stay up to watch ) i t was done in the morning.

Ithen compressed a couple of folder and duplicated them.

did a backup. It took just afew minutes to back up 4 GB, with spotlight on.


So there is hope that this problem may be related to some corruption in index files or directory...

I will continue investigating to see if files in large duplicated folder get indexed correctly.


To summarize,

use spotless to deactivate spotlight. Remove all index files and delete index directory.

Make a time mcahine backup.

Reactivate spotlight. remove all drives except system drive, let it index peacefully ( this is to avoid backup operation during the indexing)


For those of you who, like me do not trust blindly Apple, I also used superduper! to clone my disk. This provides a bootable backup drive. I did all of this on such a backup so as not to take any chance if something went very wrong!!!


Good luck to all

Sep 23, 2012 3:55 PM in response to ppithermo

I've resorted to using Carbon Copy Cloner until Apple fix this... I love the fact that 10.7.5 said "it resolved issues with Spotlight on SMB"... apparently they resolved the issue by breaking Spotlight system-wide. It took over a day and a half to index 55GB on an SSD and now Time Machine is broken.


Whatever happened to Apple QA? Don't they test their releases anymore?

Sep 23, 2012 5:35 PM in response to Larry Nolan

Same problem after the 10.7.5 update. Using the sudo command listed in the thread and below to turn off Spotlight restores normal, speedy Time Machine operation. I use Spotlight all the time and eagerly await the Apple repair of this problematic udpate. Additionally, the current version of Toast is crashing since this update.


sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

Sep 23, 2012 7:37 PM in response to Larry Nolan

In case this goes on for more than a couple of more days, I've created two AppleScripts, one to stop spotlight, and one to start it again. You find the Applescript Editor in /Applications/Utilities/. Now I can just double-click the script I need.


Here's the text for each script. Replace <your password> with your actual password for the user with Administrator privs in which you are running.


Stop Spotlight script:

do shell script "launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist" password "<your password>" with administrator privileges


and to

Start Spotlight script:

do shell script "launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist" password "<your password>" with administrator privileges

Sep 24, 2012 4:33 AM in response to NeilHobbs

Thanks, that worked for me. I backed up 355 GB from scratch (2 user accounts) in about 8 hours onto my Time Capsule. Now I am going to re-test backup to the 3TB drive I bought Saturday. I was ready to take back to the store! So far, so good: so far it has backed up about 5 GB as I wrote this. It even seems faster than the TC!


If that works, I am going to install Mountain Lion on a partion of that disk and restore my backed-up accounts onto it. Wish me luck!


@Venares: I think Spotlike simply takes that long with an initial index. Just let it do its thing!

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