Larry Nolan
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Q: time machine slow in 10.7.5

Since updating to 10.7.5 using the Combo updater, Time Machine on my iMac seems much slower.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.5), iMac 21.5 in.; i5; iPad 32Gb iOS 5.

Posted on Sep 21, 2012 7:23 AM

by Larry Nolan,Solvedanswer
Larry Nolan Larry Nolan
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A:

Well I installed the 10.7.5 supplement.  Here's my first backup (with Spotlight running) with Time Machine.  Noticed that the indexing took a little while and it wasn't as fast as usual.  After this first backup I duplicated a small JPEG file on the desktop and did another backup that went quickly.  So far so good.

 

 

10/4/12 4:37:07.796 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting standard backup

10/4/12 4:37:07.916 PM com.apple.backupd: Backing up to: /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb

10/4/12 4:37:09.199 PM com.apple.backupd: Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD

10/4/12 4:37:09.343 PM com.apple.backupd: Deep event scan at path:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|

10/4/12 4:42:29.548 PM com.apple.backupd: Finished scan

10/4/12 4:43:31.075 PM com.apple.backupd: 1.51 GB required (including padding), 21.26 GB available

10/4/12 4:43:31.231 PM com.apple.backupd: Waiting for index to be ready (101)

10/4/12 4:47:15.871 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 15059 files (369.3 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:47:17.977 PM com.apple.backupd: 1004.6 MB required (including padding), 20.89 GB available

10/4/12 4:47:28.248 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 2117 files (104 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:47:34.621 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting post-backup thinning

10/4/12 4:48:16.940 PM com.apple.backupd: Deleted /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb/Nolan iMac/2012-09-04-182017 (279.4 MB)

10/4/12 4:48:33.831 PM com.apple.backupd: Deleted /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb/Nolan iMac/2012-10-02-173549 (27.2 MB)

10/4/12 4:48:33.831 PM com.apple.backupd: Post-back up thinning complete: 2 expired backups removed

10/4/12 4:48:33.958 PM com.apple.backupd: Backup completed successfully.

10/4/12 4:49:03.708 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting standard backup

10/4/12 4:49:03.713 PM com.apple.backupd: Backing up to: /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb

10/4/12 4:49:04.521 PM com.apple.backupd: 1006.8 MB required (including padding), 21.19 GB available

10/4/12 4:49:09.709 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 1102 files (1.5 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:49:09.902 PM com.apple.backupd: 1005.0 MB required (including padding), 21.19 GB available

10/4/12 4:49:14.018 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 955 files (8 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:49:16.397 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting post-backup thinning

10/4/12 4:49:16.397 PM com.apple.backupd: No post-back up thinning needed: no expired backups exist

10/4/12 4:49:16.480 PM com.apple.backupd: Backup completed successfully.

Posted on Oct 4, 2012 2:53 PM

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Q: time machine slow in 10.7.5

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  • by StevenJD,

    StevenJD StevenJD Sep 25, 2012 10:59 AM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Sep 25, 2012 10:59 AM in response to NeilHobbs

    I have 10.8.2 on two machines and they work fine. No problem with spotlight or time machine on either. In fact, my MacBook Air has been backing up to an encrypted network time machine volume while asleep using power nap. But I also have two machines with 10.7.5. My Mac Pro has the problems discussed here. My Mac Mini has no sign of any of these problems and is working fine with 10.7.5, so it's definitely not a universal problem, it must depend on the specific hardware and/or software configuration.

     

    Steve

  • by tmg2010,

    tmg2010 tmg2010 Sep 25, 2012 11:03 AM in response to Peter Paul Selen
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    Sep 25, 2012 11:03 AM in response to Peter Paul Selen

    https://bugreport.apple.com/

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • by badga,

    badga badga Sep 25, 2012 11:35 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Sep 25, 2012 11:35 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    Same problem here 10.7.5 had messed up my spotlight and TM backups are reiculously slow... I'm currently awaiting some info from apple.

  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Sep 25, 2012 11:49 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Sep 25, 2012 11:49 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    I've just submitted a bug to Apple, hopefully they will acknowledge the issue...

  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Sep 25, 2012 12:01 PM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Sep 25, 2012 12:01 PM in response to Larry Nolan

    I have just submitted feedback to Apple as well...

  • by Venares,

    Venares Venares Sep 25, 2012 12:05 PM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Sep 25, 2012 12:05 PM in response to NeilHobbs

    me too

  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Sep 25, 2012 12:08 PM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Sep 25, 2012 12:08 PM in response to Larry Nolan

    I can't believe that these issues got through quality control, the update was in testing for months...  As soon as it comes out, people install it and our machines develop the same issues...

  • by andre.s,

    andre.s andre.s Sep 25, 2012 12:29 PM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Sep 25, 2012 12:29 PM in response to NeilHobbs

    Me too.

     

    I've also try to backup when Spotlight is stopped, no positive result :(

     

    2 ways ... 1st downgrade to 10.7.4 and 2nd upgrade to 10.8.2 ... What's the best?

  • by badga,

    badga badga Sep 25, 2012 12:34 PM in response to andre.s
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    Sep 25, 2012 12:34 PM in response to andre.s

    OK feedback reported,

     

    if anyone else has these issues please can you report them. Lets hope they fix this soon.....

     

    maybe its' a ploy to all upgrade to Mountain Lion?

  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Sep 25, 2012 12:40 PM in response to andre.s
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    Sep 25, 2012 12:40 PM in response to andre.s

    I'm considering to upgrade to Mountain Lion, however I'm going to wait a little longer before I do.

     

    I orginially planned to wait until 10.8.2 came out and the bugs were resolved.  I waited until October of last year before I upgraded to Lion.  Until the 10.7.5 upgrade, I've had no issues with Lion.

     

    You would have really thought that Apple Technical Support would know about this now and have acknowledged it - this thread has been going since Friday/Saturday.

     

    If nothing developes by the weekend, I may consider upgrading to Mountian Lion...

  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Sep 25, 2012 1:07 PM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Sep 25, 2012 1:07 PM in response to Larry Nolan

    Has anyone upgraded to 10.8.2 with these issues?  Would doing it resolve them or just make them worse?

  • by badga,

    badga badga Sep 25, 2012 1:31 PM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Sep 25, 2012 1:31 PM in response to NeilHobbs

    maybe its' a ploy to all upgrade to Mountain Lion?

     

    Neil, you're not alone, it's got me thinking the same....

     

    it's amazing, in a daft kinda way. Spotlight just keeps adding time on rather than it depleting.

  • by infinite vortex,

    infinite vortex infinite vortex Sep 25, 2012 1:50 PM in response to badga
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    Sep 25, 2012 1:50 PM in response to badga

    maybe its' a ploy to all upgrade to Mountain Lion?

     

    While it might look that way it's mostly a matter of self-created circumstances. iOS6 was to be released on 19 September which included features that, amongst other things, required iPhoto 9.4 and iPhoto 9.4 requires OS X 10.8.2 or 10.7.5.

     

    @NeilHobbs - I personally don't have any issues with Spotlight under 10.8.2 although can't atest to Time Machine as TM is run from my Lion Sever (10.7.4) and not my client system. Like you I wanted to wait a little longer on going to ML and this issue (more Spotlight than TM) propmted me to make the move. Fortunately I haven't come across any stability issues but being forced into Safari 6 and its unified address/search bar is horrible!

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Sep 25, 2012 2:01 PM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:01 PM in response to NeilHobbs

    NeilHobbs wrote:

     

    Has anyone upgraded to 10.8.2 with these issues?  Would doing it resolve them or just make them worse?

     

    Mountain Lion does not seem to have this problem. It appears isolated to OS X 10.7.5 only.

     

    If you decide to upgrade though, you should first make sure you have archived your Lion system since this is often the only way to revert to it. So, unless your existing Lion Time Machine backup is recent (or you have an equivalent clone) I do not recommend upgrading simply to solve this one problem. It's obvious to me that we can do nothing but patiently wait for Apple to fix it.

     

    I reverted to 10.7.4 on my Lion systems. Time Machine and Spotlight behave normally.

  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Sep 25, 2012 2:09 PM in response to infinite vortex
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:09 PM in response to infinite vortex

    I think there maybe some issues with Mountian Lion as I've found this single post thread in the forum;

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/19738123#19738123

     

    This is only one instance, so I can't really say.

     

    Yeah, as iOS 6 was released everything was updated to bring the OS X elements in line.  This is the first issue that I've experienced with OS X since 10.5 - so in terms of overall stability its not too bad, but its not good that this is going on now and so widespread.

     

    For the time-being, I've disable Spotlight completely and Time Machine is working fine.  I would have to consider re-enabling Spotlight and letting it rebuild its index before I performed the upgrade, but doing that would cause me to be unable to back up my OS prior.

     

    As this is so widespread, I expect Apple to resolve this.

     

    I'm going to keep a close eye on this thread this week - we could get it to 20 pages before the end of the week

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