Larry Nolan
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Q: time machine slow in 10.7.5

Since updating to 10.7.5 using the Combo updater, Time Machine on my iMac seems much slower.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.5), iMac 21.5 in.; i5; iPad 32Gb iOS 5.

Posted on Sep 21, 2012 7:23 AM

by Larry Nolan,Solvedanswer
Larry Nolan Larry Nolan
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Well I installed the 10.7.5 supplement.  Here's my first backup (with Spotlight running) with Time Machine.  Noticed that the indexing took a little while and it wasn't as fast as usual.  After this first backup I duplicated a small JPEG file on the desktop and did another backup that went quickly.  So far so good.

 

 

10/4/12 4:37:07.796 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting standard backup

10/4/12 4:37:07.916 PM com.apple.backupd: Backing up to: /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb

10/4/12 4:37:09.199 PM com.apple.backupd: Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD

10/4/12 4:37:09.343 PM com.apple.backupd: Deep event scan at path:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|

10/4/12 4:42:29.548 PM com.apple.backupd: Finished scan

10/4/12 4:43:31.075 PM com.apple.backupd: 1.51 GB required (including padding), 21.26 GB available

10/4/12 4:43:31.231 PM com.apple.backupd: Waiting for index to be ready (101)

10/4/12 4:47:15.871 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 15059 files (369.3 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:47:17.977 PM com.apple.backupd: 1004.6 MB required (including padding), 20.89 GB available

10/4/12 4:47:28.248 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 2117 files (104 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:47:34.621 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting post-backup thinning

10/4/12 4:48:16.940 PM com.apple.backupd: Deleted /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb/Nolan iMac/2012-09-04-182017 (279.4 MB)

10/4/12 4:48:33.831 PM com.apple.backupd: Deleted /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb/Nolan iMac/2012-10-02-173549 (27.2 MB)

10/4/12 4:48:33.831 PM com.apple.backupd: Post-back up thinning complete: 2 expired backups removed

10/4/12 4:48:33.958 PM com.apple.backupd: Backup completed successfully.

10/4/12 4:49:03.708 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting standard backup

10/4/12 4:49:03.713 PM com.apple.backupd: Backing up to: /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb

10/4/12 4:49:04.521 PM com.apple.backupd: 1006.8 MB required (including padding), 21.19 GB available

10/4/12 4:49:09.709 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 1102 files (1.5 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:49:09.902 PM com.apple.backupd: 1005.0 MB required (including padding), 21.19 GB available

10/4/12 4:49:14.018 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 955 files (8 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:49:16.397 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting post-backup thinning

10/4/12 4:49:16.397 PM com.apple.backupd: No post-back up thinning needed: no expired backups exist

10/4/12 4:49:16.480 PM com.apple.backupd: Backup completed successfully.

Posted on Oct 4, 2012 2:53 PM

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  • by Mac From Start,

    Mac From Start Mac From Start Sep 30, 2012 2:39 AM in response to Dimaxum
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    Sep 30, 2012 2:39 AM in response to Dimaxum

    Not wanting to be a wet blanket, but that was exactly the solution I tried.  Maybe I should have just kept the reindexing going, but after Spotlight had spent 21 hours indexing and told me it had 34 hours left to go I gave up.

  • by Dimaxum,

    Dimaxum Dimaxum Sep 30, 2012 2:47 AM in response to Ra_
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    Sep 30, 2012 2:47 AM in response to Ra_

    Hi,

     

     

    Ra_ wrote:

     

    Dimaxum wrote:

     

    Hi,

     

    To everybody who is struggeling with Spotlight.

     

    Read my latest post ...

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4375642

     

    Dimaxum

     

    Doesn't work for me.

     

    And why is it NOT working for you ??

     

    How can you say this ?? You have to wait what Spotlight is doing ...

     

    Please describe "why" you think this is not working.

     

    Dimaxum

  • by JackPot62,

    JackPot62 JackPot62 Sep 30, 2012 2:57 AM in response to Dimaxum
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    Sep 30, 2012 2:57 AM in response to Dimaxum

    Dimaximum: Does'nt work for me and I also do not know why.

     

    There is actually no need for onyx

    or any other "helpers". In fact these

    tools are dangerous in this case.

     

    Try this or wait until Apple can fix it or switch to windows ;o)

     

     

    1. Stop Spotlight in Terminal:  sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

     

    2. Delete Spotlight directory in Terminal: sudo rm -rf /.Spotlight-V100

     

    3. Run Time Machine at normal speed.

     

    4. Delete unneccessary mdimporters

     

    5. Switch on Spotlight in Terminal: sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

     

    6. Run Spotlight

     

    As I wrote on my previous post: I was down to 4 hours (50% ar now done).

     

    If you use your computer during the indexing (like I do now) it takes longer.

  • by Ra_,

    Ra_ Ra_ Sep 30, 2012 2:53 AM in response to Dimaxum
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    Sep 30, 2012 2:53 AM in response to Dimaxum


    And why is it NOT working for you ??

     

    How can you say this ?? You have to wait what Spotlight is doing ...

     

    Please describe "why" you think this is not working.

     

    Dimaxum

    Well, I certainely don't know why it is not working, that's the problem, right?

     

    I tryed everything but when spotlight is on it's indexing for ever and backups are insanely slow, when spotlight is off the backup acts normally.

    I choose TM backups over Spotlight until Apple fixes it.

  • by Venares,

    Venares Venares Sep 30, 2012 2:56 AM in response to JackPot62
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    Sep 30, 2012 2:56 AM in response to JackPot62

    Delete unneccessary mdimporters

    Hello,

     

    what are mdimporters? How do I delete them?

     

     

    There is actually no need for onyx

    or any other "helpers". In fact these

    tools are dangerous in this case.

    Why are these tools dangerous in this case.

     

    By the way: I have used the your given terminal commands, and I have used one of these little helpers (Cache Cleaener) and Spotlight has finished indexing after a few hours, but with Spotlight on Time Machine is still slow (needs about 10 minutes for 5 MB)

  • by JackPot62,

    JackPot62 JackPot62 Sep 30, 2012 3:13 AM in response to Venares
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    Sep 30, 2012 3:13 AM in response to Venares

    @ Venares

     

    I do not really like helpers like Tinker Tool, Onyx etc.

    But it is a personal thing. OS X has all tools onboard from

    my point of view.

     

    mdimporters are "plug ins" for spotlight.

     

    You may find them here:

     

    (user/library/spotlight AND library/spotlight):

     

    Drag them into trash but do not delete them.

     

    I've had (you may found others).

     

    FontMDI.mdimporter

    GBSpotlightImporter.mdimporter

    iWork.mdimporter

    ParallelsMD.mdimporter

    ParallelsQL.qlgenerator

    QuarkXPress.mdimporter

    Wolfram Notebook.mdimporter

     

    Do NOT delete the mdimporters in system/library/spotlight

     

    There are:

     

    Application.mdimporter

    Archives.mdimporter

    Audio.mdimporter

    Automator.mdimporter

    Bookmarks.mdimporter

    Chat.mdimporter

    CoreMedia.mdimporter

    Font.mdimporter

    iCal.mdimporter

    Image.mdimporter

    iPhoto.mdimporter

    iPhoto8.mdimporter

    Mail.mdimporter

    MIDI.mdimporter

    PDF.mdimporter

    PS.mdimporter

    QuartzComposer.mdimporter

    RichText.mdimporter

    SystemPrefs.mdimporter

    vCard.mdimporter

  • by Dimaxum,

    Dimaxum Dimaxum Sep 30, 2012 3:11 AM in response to Ra_
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    Sep 30, 2012 3:11 AM in response to Ra_

    Hi Ra_

     

    You have to disable TimeMachine until Spotlight is finishing the job.

     

    Spotlight and TimeMachine are related to each other, as long Spotlight is trying to indexing in the same time TimeMachine is trying to make a backup.

     

    After Spotlight is working again TimeMachine takes a view minutes to backup.

     

    Dimaxum

  • by JackPot62,

    JackPot62 JackPot62 Sep 30, 2012 3:18 AM in response to Dimaxum
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    Sep 30, 2012 3:18 AM in response to Dimaxum

    Dimaxum did I understand you right:

     

    When you fire up Spotlight, Time Machine will also launch?

  • by Ra_,

    Ra_ Ra_ Sep 30, 2012 3:25 AM in response to JackPot62
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    Sep 30, 2012 3:25 AM in response to JackPot62

    No I'm saying that with Spotlight off, TM works normally, as stated numbers of time before.

  • by Ra_,

    Ra_ Ra_ Sep 30, 2012 3:38 AM in response to Dimaxum
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    Sep 30, 2012 3:38 AM in response to Dimaxum

    Dimaxum, as I said, I tryed everything. This doesn't work for me either.

     

    As far as I understand this issue, it's ok for people who just upgraded to 10.7.5 and are still on incremental TM backups, it's small chunks, background proccess, you probably won't notice the bug.

    But as I changed my hard drive and had to do a fresh full backup and Spotlight reindexing, then it's days and weeks of indexing and backup.

    There is nothing we can do in that case (as far as I know).

  • by Dimaxum,

    Dimaxum Dimaxum Sep 30, 2012 4:22 AM in response to Ra_
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    Sep 30, 2012 4:22 AM in response to Ra_

    Okay, now I understand.

     

    Good luck ...

     

    Dimaxum

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Sep 30, 2012 4:53 AM in response to Dimaxum
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    Sep 30, 2012 4:53 AM in response to Dimaxum

    Not reading thru 22 pages so apologies if already stated, but what I did was disable Spotlight to do a Time Machine backup then reactivated it. Time machine is more important to me.

     

    two worring features:-

     

    1. Before I disabled spotlight, Time Machine was stuck at "Backing up 40k of 245MB. After I disabled Spotlight it zoomed through the backup but actually backed up 3.5GB . Why the disparity I wonder?

     

    2. What the flip is Apple doing releasing this garbage upgrade unless it is to get us to pay money for Mountain Lion??

     

    I am not printing the commands here but link is

     

    http://osxdaily.com/2011/12/10/disable-or-enable-spotlight-in-mac-os-x-lion/#com ment-432396

  • by Ra_,

    Ra_ Ra_ Sep 30, 2012 4:54 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Sep 30, 2012 4:54 AM in response to peter_watt

    Allready stated a million times

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Sep 30, 2012 5:07 AM in response to Ra_
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    Sep 30, 2012 5:07 AM in response to Ra_

    Ra_ wrote:

     

    Allready stated a million times

    It needs to be. 

     

    Now that spotlight is reinstated and has finished indexing, it still screws up Time Machine. Not just slow, stuck. Maybe that's been stated a million times too. Sorry, but disgrace on Apple.

  • by Francisc Pop,

    Francisc Pop Francisc Pop Sep 30, 2012 6:11 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Sep 30, 2012 6:11 AM in response to peter_watt

    peter_watt wrote:

     

    Ra_ wrote:

     

    Allready stated a million times

    It needs to be. 

     

    Now that spotlight is reinstated and has finished indexing, it still screws up Time Machine. Not just slow, stuck. Maybe that's been stated a million times too. Sorry, but disgrace on Apple.

    I agree with you.

     

    http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-tn-apple-maps-app-lion-upgrade-20120 928,0,6673140.story

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