Larry Nolan
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Q: time machine slow in 10.7.5

Since updating to 10.7.5 using the Combo updater, Time Machine on my iMac seems much slower.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.5), iMac 21.5 in.; i5; iPad 32Gb iOS 5.

Posted on Sep 21, 2012 7:23 AM

by Larry Nolan,Solvedanswer
Larry Nolan Larry Nolan
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A:

Well I installed the 10.7.5 supplement.  Here's my first backup (with Spotlight running) with Time Machine.  Noticed that the indexing took a little while and it wasn't as fast as usual.  After this first backup I duplicated a small JPEG file on the desktop and did another backup that went quickly.  So far so good.

 

 

10/4/12 4:37:07.796 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting standard backup

10/4/12 4:37:07.916 PM com.apple.backupd: Backing up to: /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb

10/4/12 4:37:09.199 PM com.apple.backupd: Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD

10/4/12 4:37:09.343 PM com.apple.backupd: Deep event scan at path:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|

10/4/12 4:42:29.548 PM com.apple.backupd: Finished scan

10/4/12 4:43:31.075 PM com.apple.backupd: 1.51 GB required (including padding), 21.26 GB available

10/4/12 4:43:31.231 PM com.apple.backupd: Waiting for index to be ready (101)

10/4/12 4:47:15.871 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 15059 files (369.3 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:47:17.977 PM com.apple.backupd: 1004.6 MB required (including padding), 20.89 GB available

10/4/12 4:47:28.248 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 2117 files (104 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:47:34.621 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting post-backup thinning

10/4/12 4:48:16.940 PM com.apple.backupd: Deleted /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb/Nolan iMac/2012-09-04-182017 (279.4 MB)

10/4/12 4:48:33.831 PM com.apple.backupd: Deleted /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb/Nolan iMac/2012-10-02-173549 (27.2 MB)

10/4/12 4:48:33.831 PM com.apple.backupd: Post-back up thinning complete: 2 expired backups removed

10/4/12 4:48:33.958 PM com.apple.backupd: Backup completed successfully.

10/4/12 4:49:03.708 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting standard backup

10/4/12 4:49:03.713 PM com.apple.backupd: Backing up to: /Volumes/Larry Time Machine/Backups.backupdb

10/4/12 4:49:04.521 PM com.apple.backupd: 1006.8 MB required (including padding), 21.19 GB available

10/4/12 4:49:09.709 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 1102 files (1.5 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:49:09.902 PM com.apple.backupd: 1005.0 MB required (including padding), 21.19 GB available

10/4/12 4:49:14.018 PM com.apple.backupd: Copied 955 files (8 KB) from volume Macintosh HD.

10/4/12 4:49:16.397 PM com.apple.backupd: Starting post-backup thinning

10/4/12 4:49:16.397 PM com.apple.backupd: No post-back up thinning needed: no expired backups exist

10/4/12 4:49:16.480 PM com.apple.backupd: Backup completed successfully.

Posted on Oct 4, 2012 2:53 PM

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  • by mtqp,

    mtqp mtqp Oct 2, 2012 9:58 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 2, 2012 9:58 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    I have same issue, It's an issue with spotlight. I called Apple, they disabled my spotlight (after 5 calls) and Time Machine now works perfect

  • by Joshua305,

    Joshua305 Joshua305 Oct 2, 2012 10:36 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 2, 2012 10:36 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    I just got off of the phone with applecare.  They are now describing the spotlight pproblem (after confering with tier 2) as a known bug.  They are supposedly working on a fix.

  • by myOpninions,

    myOpninions myOpninions Oct 2, 2012 11:37 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 2, 2012 11:37 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    I can confirm that after upgrade to 10.7.5 backup speed went down to the order of kB/hour. I found this hint on the web to stop spotlight. It helped perfectly but of course is not a permanent fix.

    Stop spotlight by entering in the terminal:

    sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

    Start sportlight (after the backup) with

    sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

     

    Backup went back to full speed with spotlight turned off

  • by JackPot62,

    JackPot62 JackPot62 Oct 2, 2012 11:43 AM in response to Ra_
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    Oct 2, 2012 11:43 AM in response to Ra_

    They do not read these threads? And who delets too critical postings?

  • by James Rothschild,

    James Rothschild James Rothschild Oct 2, 2012 12:37 PM in response to JackPot62
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    Oct 2, 2012 12:37 PM in response to JackPot62

    ...so, how is your searching in Outlook 2011 now Spotight is off ?

  • by metalman213,

    metalman213 metalman213 Oct 2, 2012 12:41 PM in response to James Rothschild
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    Oct 2, 2012 12:41 PM in response to James Rothschild

    I have tried searching in Outlook. But I also have to say the command prompt to trun off Spotlight didnt work to speed up TM. I had to use a program

  • by Chelsea22,

    Chelsea22 Chelsea22 Oct 2, 2012 1:12 PM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 2, 2012 1:12 PM in response to Larry Nolan

    wow! fantastic! the sudo thing... great!!!

  • by Odi1972,

    Odi1972 Odi1972 Oct 2, 2012 3:00 PM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 2, 2012 3:00 PM in response to Larry Nolan

    I have the same problem.

    Yesterday it took an hour and half to back up 4 GB of data.

  • by James Rothschild,

    James Rothschild James Rothschild Oct 2, 2012 3:00 PM in response to Chelsea22
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    Oct 2, 2012 3:00 PM in response to Chelsea22

    @metalman213did you manage to search Outlook 2010 for Mac then ?

    Mine broke when Spotlight went off:-(

  • by opt03,

    opt03 opt03 Oct 2, 2012 3:24 PM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 2, 2012 3:24 PM in response to Larry Nolan

    Got the same problem. I think I have a record for the slowest Spotlight indexing – 27 years. TimeMachine backups work fine after disabling Spotlight.

     

    I'm also experiencing a lot of sudden system freezes and lockups since updating to 10.7.5. Hope Apple releases a patch soon.

     

    Spotlight.png

  • by twillem,

    twillem twillem Oct 2, 2012 5:23 PM in response to Guy Mcmahan
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:23 PM in response to Guy Mcmahan

    Download and work around "Chronosync" for $ 40 dollars and the problems are solved.

     

    Obviously the next issue to improve your Mac, without having Apple involved.

     

    Applesoft

    Microtosh

     

    Best,

    Thom

     

     

    http://www.econtechnologies.com/pages/cs/chrono_overview.html

  • by Joshua305,

    Joshua305 Joshua305 Oct 2, 2012 6:31 PM in response to twillem
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    Oct 2, 2012 6:31 PM in response to twillem

    Solves Time Machine issue but is not a fix for spotlight not working correctly.

  • by Bakerchief,

    Bakerchief Bakerchief Oct 2, 2012 7:54 PM in response to John Galt
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    Oct 2, 2012 7:54 PM in response to John Galt

    Thanks John,

     

    I'm going to wait a couple more days to see if Apple comes up with a fix for this fiasco. I may eventually move to ML, once I'm sure it is stable enough. I'm working overseas in India and there is very little in the way of Apple support here so I have to be careful with any upgrades.

     

    In retrospect, it was a big mistake upgrading to 10.7.5 so fast. I've learned an invaluable lesson here. Wait to see the outcome and follow these threads more closely before taking the plunge.

  • by James Rothschild,

    James Rothschild James Rothschild Oct 3, 2012 12:26 AM in response to Bakerchief
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    Oct 3, 2012 12:26 AM in response to Bakerchief

    Joshua305 & others ...

     

    I agree, this not really a solution for all version and situations ...

     

    I have tried all the fixes on a range of Macs (I run a Mac Support business) and none of them are full fixes.

     

    I have also tested with OS X Server installs; over-installing 10.7 and upgrading to 10.7.4 = still not perfect for speed and TM. System still screwed, only a full wipe, install rebuild will do. Upgrading to OSX Server 10.7.5 and applying thses fixes still has issues. osx_10-7-5_issues_02.png

    And as I mentioned earlier,, the SpotLight issue effects other programs too, most notably and most often uses; Microsoft Outlook cannot search anymore :-(

     

    Our only solution for the mo,ent is to try and get SpotLOught to actually turn off. Some systems are damaged and do not easily receive the SpotLight Terminal commands mentioned on thos thread.

    We have managed to use CockTail sucessfully though.

    So we are leaving SpotLight and TimeMachone off, and using CCCloner incremental timed every 6 hours to external HD's.

    Even then the systems has issues with speed, opening windows & dialogue boxes (in varying degree's)

     

    Expect to see protests outside Apple Stores and this issue on the International News methinks :-(

  • by Nick M.,

    Nick M. Nick M. Oct 3, 2012 1:04 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 3, 2012 1:04 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    Same issue. This NEEDS a fix. Completely ridiculous...

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