Larry Nolan

Q: time machine slow in 10.7.5

Since updating to 10.7.5 using the Combo updater, Time Machine on my iMac seems much slower.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.5), iMac 21.5 in.; i5; iPad 32Gb iOS 5.

Posted on Sep 21, 2012 7:23 AM

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  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Oct 3, 2012 1:32 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 3, 2012 1:32 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    I received a reply from Apple this morning regarding the Bug Report that I submitted last Monday (the 24th of September) for these issues, to say that my report had been closed as it was a duplicate of one already submitted.  They have highlighted that the issues are being dealt with under the following reference;

     

    Bug ID# 12136478

     

    It is being looked at, so I guess that we have to wait.  I can live with this for now, as I don't really use Spotlight apart from within Outlook 2011.  Backups are more important

  • by James Rothschild,

    James Rothschild James Rothschild Oct 3, 2012 1:34 AM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Oct 3, 2012 1:34 AM in response to NeilHobbs

    Thanks for that :-)

     

    I can imagine it's not just a proper 10.7.5 they need to issue, or a 10.7.6 ?, but a REPAIR solution/utility as well :-O

  • by Mac From Start,

    Mac From Start Mac From Start Oct 3, 2012 2:42 AM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Oct 3, 2012 2:42 AM in response to NeilHobbs

    I should not be adding more repetition to an already repetitive thread, and I apologize for that, but for some of us Time Machine is not as crucial as Spotlight.  Like a number of other people, I'm using Carbon Copy Cloner for my backups now, instead of Time Machine.  When and if things get back to normal I'll go back to using both.

     

    But I am being grossly inconvenienced by not having Spotlight, because I was using it in my work to search for content on my hard disks.  There are other programs around that will find files by name and so forth, but none that I know of that, for instance, will find all files (including proprietory word processor files) in which some technical term is used.  I've grown to depend on being able to do such searches and until there's a fix for Spotlight or I find out about some third party software that functions as well as Spotlight did on content, my work is being affected.

     

    Yeah, I know, I could downgrade, or try Mountain Lion, but to be honest, after messing with this for a week now I'm getting tired of trying one thing after another, for fear of frying pans and fires.  Maybe Apple will fix this before I also get tired of guessing which files have the term conveyance in them.

  • by tolochenaz,

    tolochenaz tolochenaz Oct 3, 2012 3:20 AM in response to Mac From Start
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    Oct 3, 2012 3:20 AM in response to Mac From Start

    Where is progress? My Macbook Pro is not performing better in everyday utilization than my 2008 white Macbook in its original configuration. Updates come in nearly as often as for Windows and now with a major bug that is creating problems with my work.

     

    Not to mention that the brandnew Macbook Pro went out of order (heat detector defect) after 3 weeks and I had to wait for nearly one month to get it back because parts are shipped to the service center (they were nice ...) once in a while.

     

    I am afraid that Apple lost any competitive advantage to its much cheaper competitors and this is definitely my last purchase from that company. I can have problems considerably cheaper.

     

    By the way, any experience with Blackberry? This is my 3rd BB in 18 months and for service now since 2 weeks just out of the box ....

     

    Is there anything else around than rubbish ?????

  • by Bill & Eva,

    Bill & Eva Bill & Eva Oct 3, 2012 3:32 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 3, 2012 3:32 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    Yes. I've just posted a question about this. Both our iMac and Macbook Pro became incredibly slow at backing up to our LaCie hard drive after updating our software to something called "Remote Access" or something similar. It now takes hours to back up just 2 Mb!

  • by James Rothschild,

    James Rothschild James Rothschild Oct 3, 2012 3:39 AM in response to Mac From Start
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    Oct 3, 2012 3:39 AM in response to Mac From Start

    I fear that Mountain Lion 10.8.2 has the same issue / damage ?

    Can anyone confirm either way please ?

  • by gilken,

    gilken gilken Oct 3, 2012 5:09 AM in response to James Rothschild
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    Oct 3, 2012 5:09 AM in response to James Rothschild

    Yep, Mountain Lion 10.8.2 has the same problem, at least with Time Machine. In my latest experience Time Machine wanted to back up 29.5 GB (way more than expected). After a couple of hours that many GB had been backed up but then both the limit and the backed up amount started incrementing very slowly. When they had reached just over 32 GB after a couple of hours and still incrementing I just disabled Time Machine. It will stay off until Apple does something about it.

     

    I also run Lion on another computer and there I have also disabled Time Machine. Spotlight runs (and runs and runs ...) but at least I can still search.

     

    Are backups made by this miserable Time Machine to be trusted? When you expect backups in the order of megabytes and it backs up gigabytes, what on earth _is_ it backing up?

  • by alexander118,

    alexander118 alexander118 Oct 3, 2012 5:18 AM in response to James Rothschild
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    Oct 3, 2012 5:18 AM in response to James Rothschild

    I had the same issue on my macbbok 2009. but now it seems to work after i performed the following procedure

     

    - delete the spotlight file sudo rm -rf /.Spotlight-V100

     

    - download and install combo-update 10.7.5 from apple page

     

    - turn off time machine and restart

     

    - rebuild spotlight index (it took many many hours!!! i guess the whole night)

     

    - deactivate spotlight sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

     

    - turn on time machine and make a backup (it took some minutes for 11GB)

     

    - activate spotlight sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist

     

    Time machine works.

     

    I hope the commands are correct.

  • by NeilHobbs,

    NeilHobbs NeilHobbs Oct 3, 2012 5:18 AM in response to gilken
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    Oct 3, 2012 5:18 AM in response to gilken

    Have you reported this to Apple via the Bug Reporter or Feedback pages?  We need them to aware that is is case and get working on a fix.

     

    I was considering an upgrade, but I won't if ML isn't any better...

  • by oshilumbo,

    oshilumbo oshilumbo Oct 3, 2012 5:23 AM in response to gilken
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    Oct 3, 2012 5:23 AM in response to gilken

    I also noticed that it's backing up much more than expected. For some reason some of my oldest backups disappeared from the TM drive even though there's still lots of space left on it. Did anyone else notice that?

  • by websterrobert,

    websterrobert websterrobert Oct 3, 2012 5:50 AM in response to James Rothschild
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    Oct 3, 2012 5:50 AM in response to James Rothschild

    I am running 10.8.2 with no Spotlight or Time Machine issues.

     

    Late 2009 MacBook

  • by badga,

    badga badga Oct 3, 2012 6:27 AM in response to websterrobert
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    Oct 3, 2012 6:27 AM in response to websterrobert

    It sounds like Mountain Lion may be the solution for some, unless you can restore 10.7.4 from TM like I did.

  • by GK224,

    GK224 GK224 Oct 3, 2012 6:28 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 3, 2012 6:28 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    Here's a link to a CNET article regarding this issue:

     

    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57524236-263/time-machine-running-slow-afte r-os-x-10.7.5-update/

     

    Solution #4 worked for me, but I don't use Spotlight much.

  • by norbertm,

    norbertm norbertm Oct 3, 2012 6:50 AM in response to Larry Nolan
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    Oct 3, 2012 6:50 AM in response to Larry Nolan

    To add another observation (10.7.5., I have time machine off, spotlight indexing with 8 DAYs to go - number incresing daily):

     

    Search does not work in the AddressBook

     

    btw.: Time machine decided to redo a "new" backup before I noticed the slow down. So I lost my TM-backup. Forunately I'm paranoid and do a daily CCC backup, too.

  • by salvofromlondon,

    salvofromlondon salvofromlondon Oct 3, 2012 8:17 AM in response to NeilHobbs
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    Oct 3, 2012 8:17 AM in response to NeilHobbs

    Guys Do you know the number to talk to apple , I live in Dubai and i really to stree apple dor this issue to be resolve , i dont have  back uo now, because i thought was my external harddrive and i formatted , and now i need to waut like 23 days for time machine to finish , so i decide to stop it , this is insane , ridicoulos ! 

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