Q: iPhone 5 battery life is way worse than iPhone 4

Well I don't know how the current Facebook integration behaves, but I don't use it anyway. One thing I know is that the battery life clearly can't be impacted by backgrounded (non-iOS) apps.

you guys can try to find whats causing it as much as you like but the simple truth is :only apple can fix this( if it can be fixed at all) and if they dont they will lose about 50-60% of their customers...i still believe its fixable but im starting to worry...anyway they should aknowledge the problem so we at least know

where we stand.anyone see their shares freefall today??

I agree that only APPLE can address the issue.   My guess is that it's a problem in the switching logic that manages the 3g, LTE and wifi antennas.

I'm thinking the 50-60% customer loss is hyperbole though...  

The entire stock market tanked yesterday, so blaming an APPLE drop on the i5 is a stretch.......

Keja3600 wrote:

 

you guys can try to find whats causing it as much as you like but the simple truth is :only apple can fix this( if it can be fixed at all) and if they dont they will lose about 50-60% of their customers...i still believe its fixable but im starting to worry...anyway they should aknowledge the problem so we at least know

where we stand.anyone see their shares freefall today??

Some findings to share.

Basically, some data transmission activities running on background even the phone is idling.

Monitored the cellular data usage on phone for a couple days and I discovered that an increment of 7kb for every 2 mins interval on my usage screen (Sent: 3kb, Received: 4kb)

So theoretically, if my phone is consuming data at the rate of 7kb/2mins, it will be 35kb in 10mins.

Therefore, I decided to test it out with a 10mins idling time and see if is surge up.

And bingo.. my data usage increased by 35+/-kb in 10mins.

Feedback to my service provider immediately regards to the issue that i'm having, though they have yet to get back to me since yesterday, but I did notice some differences with my background data activities today.

It had significantly slowed down, My battery tends to last a little longer before it drains away my precious 1%.

It used to last the most 2mins.

I maybe wrong, but worth giving it a try since we are all out ideas and solutions.

Note that all apps, features that requires data were being turned off (except 3G/LTE) during the test.

This little data usage might be the push service packets keeping the connection alive.

Can we all agree that the 'effective' battery life is 5-6 hours and move on?  It's clear that there is a issue with the power management with the OS in regards to how it handles low signal strengh.  Only Apple can say if this is by design or not,but is may be a trade off for having less dropped calls. Maybe the engineers will be able to optimize it at some point and improve the battery consumption while on 3G/LTE but if not, then we'll have to accept it.

No, because most people Are getting 4-5 hours which is about 50% of advertised estimates. Which is pathetic. I would accept 10-20% difference, but not 50%.

spyd4r wrote:

 

No, because most people Are getting 4-5 hours which is about 50% of advertised estimates. Which is pathetic. I would accept 10-20% difference, but not 50%.

Apple has clearly said that the battery life is "up to" X time and that "All battery claims depend on network configuration and many other factors; actual results will vary" Furthermore, those time are for doing one activity at a time, which of course is going to provide a longer battery life.  As the saying goes, YMWV

From what I've seen on the review sites 4-5 hours is pretty common real world usage for 3G/LTE for most popular phones

True, but the data feeding interval is way to short, they should make it longer when the phone is idling.

Apple has to include "up to" and other legal language because otherwise they'd be sued every 5 minutes, probably by a lot of folks on this forum, haha. In my experience, this is the first time Apple's  "up to" claims haven't been anywhere close to the real world. Their claims for the 4 was pretty spot on for my regular use. As were their battery claims for the iPad and iPad 2. Those are the only recent iDevices I've owned, and so the only ones I can speak for.

Bottom line: I was considering switching to the GSIII, but the better-than-the-competition battery on LTE put it over the top. Whoops...

no offense but if that is considered normal than they can keep their 4g.imho,its not normal,how do you explain that there are people that get to 7-8 hours easily??or if other phones do the same why does my friend's galaxy s3 with an even bigger screen get about 8-9 hours of use? plz people stop claiming its normal because its not.your just too proud to admit that you have a **** phone right now,because with ur previous iphones u had the best thing out there and now that its not anymore it kinda hurts right?well guess what,keep saying oooooh this is ok and apple will say ; LOL those idiots are actually satisfied with this.ok dont bother fixing it...this is an outrage,you cant advert numbers and then only live up to half of that.anyone who accepts that is an idiot!sorry..

So if Apple would say "up to 20 hours LTE" and you'd get 1 hour of LTE, you wouldn't think this is false advertising? I know this is not the case here but I'm exaggerating to get my point across.

If Apple says I CAN browse the web for up to 8 hours on LTE but can barely keep my phone alive for 4 - 5 hours, then I say this is FALSE advertising plain and simple. And judging by the size of this thread, thousands of other users agree with me on this. And because we're not used to false advertising from Apple (especially as severe as this would be), we're more inclined to believing there's something wrong with IOS/hardware.

Besides, there's nothing wrong with being critical towards the products you've spent your hard earned cash on. Even if the product came from Apple, who usually appears to be less flawed than other companies.

Nobody should ever merely 'accept' something without first asking questions and getting those questions answered. Especially if these questions concern a very expensive premium product.

Heres a converation I found, you can swap out the GS3 for iP5 and it would be the same as this board

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii/210520-galaxy-s3-battery-l ife.html

Bottom line is these are radio devices and do multiple fuctions each with there own power requirements....How any partictular phone will behave in your area compared to the same phone doing the exact same fuction is likely to be different. 

no matter if i have LTE on or off, i get 4.5 hours usage everytime.. the only way, and i mean only way i can get more is to have the cellular radio turned off.. this is complete crap.

even with an "up to", you wouldn't expect 50% of a claimed amount..

do you think a car company could say you get 50 mpg, and you realistically get 25?

Echo Station wrote:

 

spyd4r wrote:

 

No, because most people Are getting 4-5 hours which is about 50% of advertised estimates. Which is pathetic. I would accept 10-20% difference, but not 50%.

Apple has clearly said that the battery life is "up to" X time and that "All battery claims depend on network configuration and many other factors; actual results will vary" Furthermore, those time are for doing one activity at a time, which of course is going to provide a longer battery life.  As the saying goes, YMWV

 

From what I've seen on the review sites 4-5 hours is pretty common real world usage for 3G/LTE for most popular phones

KéKé wrote:

 

So if Apple would say "up to 20 hours LTE" and you'd get 1 hour of LTE, you wouldn't think this is false advertising? I know this is not the case here but I'm exaggerating to get my point across.

 

If Apple says I CAN browse the web for up to 8 hours on LTE but can barely keep my phone alive for 4 - 5 hours, then I say this is FALSE advertising plain and simple. And judging by the size of this thread, thousands of other users agree with me on this. And because we're not used to false advertising from Apple (especially as severe as this would be), we're more inclined believing there's something wrong with IOS/hardware.

 

Besides, there's nothing wrong with being critical towards the products you've spent your hard earned cash on. Even if the product came from Apple, who usually appears to be less flawed than other companies.

 

Nobody should ever merely 'accept' something without first asking questions and getting those questions answered. Especially if these questions concern a very expensive premium product.

I absolutely agree that there is nothing wrong with being critical, but to what point?  Clearly the phone IS capable of reaching the claims Apple is making, as verified by review sites and by some on this board.  What I'm saying is that for many there are other variables which are affecting the phones ability to reach it's full potental.  Ultimately it's up to each of us to find a way to decide if its the right phone, or to switch to another