10 Replies Latest reply: Sep 25, 2012 10:17 AM by Tom Gewecke
MBosty Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Why do I getting errors when I use Indian numerals using Arabic keyboard , for example if I switch to arabic keyboard layout and try to write a number in number field in FileMaker or set page dimensions in adobe indesign , I get errors?


Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,355 points)

    Do you have this problem with any Apple app?  If so, tell us which one.  If not, best use the support forums and channels for the people who make the apps you are having problems with -- Filemaker and Adobe.

  • MBosty Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    good point Tom,

    it actually happens in safari too if i write the ip address using the arabic keybaord layout , i get error too as if it doesnot accept the indian numerals as numbers.

    example : if i write ip address  192.168.1.3 it is ok , i go there, but if i write ١٩٢٫١٦٨٫١٫٣ (which is the same) i get error

     

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  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,355 points)

    MBosty wrote:

     

    if i write ip address  192.168.1.3 it is ok , i go there, but if i write ١٩٢٫١٦٨٫١٫٣ (which is the same) i get error

     

     

     

    But those are not at all "the same".  IP addresses must be in "arabic" numerals.  The data codes used by the "indian" numerals are totally different, and as far as I know there are no servers that will respond to them.

  • roam Level 6 Level 6 (13,560 points)

    I think Tom has nailed it, but grant me this elaboration.

    Foreign languages and their numeric characters are different to computer languages, which have their own prescribed inputs.

     

    In your applications, Filemaker, Adobe etc , or for ip addresses, using different numeric characters for preference settings will be read by the software as invalid.

    If in software, a number field expects a numeric '7', and you typed the string 'seven'  the software would see that as invalid, just as if you entered '७' or '&', i.e the numeric field accepts only 'values' based on the 0 to 9 array and no others.

  • MBosty Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ok, it is not the same , but is there any way i can use to write arabic text and arabic numerals without having to switch the keyboard layout as i am developing a database where i'll have to write arabic text and numbers?

    that problem is in ipad too, any suggestions?

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,355 points)

    MBosty wrote:

     

    is there any way i can use to write arabic text and arabic numerals without having to switch the keyboard layout

     

    Yes, many people have that need, so it has been provided for.

     

    On the iPad, you just hold down the key for an Indian number and you will get a popup where you can choose the Arabic version.

     

    On a hardware keyboard, with the Arabic qwerty layout, you just hit the caps lock key.

  • MBosty Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    so it works only on Arabic qwerty layout not Arabic PC layout, they should have done it for both layouts.

    and for the ipad it would take ages to write a big number using press and hold style that it would be easier to change the layout to English US for every number field.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,355 points)

    MBosty wrote:

     

    so it works only on Arabic qwerty layout not Arabic PC layout

     

    It certainly does work on my Arabic PC layout (provided by Apple in 10.7).  Is yours different?

     

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    For the iPad, using the "globe" key makes it pretty easy to change layouts if you prefer that.  To tell Apple you want to see improvements, you can use:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

  • MBosty Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK I got it , it  just doesnot work from the numbers pad to the right of the keyboard, it only works from the numbers  at the top of the letters.

    It is wiered though  as numbers typed from the numbers pad using Arabic Qwerty are always "Arabic" while using  Arabic PC will always give you "Indian" numerals wether the Caps Lock is on or off.

    Thanks Tom

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,355 points)

    MBosty wrote:

     

    numbers typed from the numbers pad using Arabic Qwerty are always "Arabic" while using  Arabic PC will always give you "Indian" numerals wether the Caps Lock is on or off.

     

     

    Interesting!  I haven't had numbers pad for awhile and did not realize that.  You could make a custom keyboard layout to change that by using

     

    http://scripts.sil.org/ukelele