Sleep and UPS/Backup issues

I am rethinking my UPS backup requirement.

To me AVR (Automatic Voltage Regulation) may be way more important than software to shut down my iMac upon a power outage. Power outages are less frequent lately, but power fluctuations are still with me in my neighborhood, and probably were the reasons for a crashy iMac DVSE.

If my iMac DVSE and G5 are both in sleep and on the UPS, and the power goes out, I figure the power USEAGE will be small and the batteries will last pretty long - so no need for shut down. I guess I just need to know what the specs are for energy useage to calculate battery time.

Thoughts?

G5 Imac 20/Isight, imacdvse 500, Mac OS X (10.4.6), 500M RAM/G5; 30G HD, 1G RAM, 120 Ext. HD

Posted on Apr 7, 2006 12:51 PM

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Apr 7, 2006 2:48 PM in response to brian groft

Hello again Brian;
Your UPS should have the running specs on the box, it will tell you for how long it will power a specified machine. I think I posted the APC home site the last time we had this discussion, but here is is again http://www.apcc.com/products/. You can look up the exact APC model for your iMac, with relevant run times and then
transfer those numbers to the Energy Saver prefs and schedule shut down just before the batteries run out.

Hope this helps and that you are enjoying your iMac,
Cheers,
Miriam

Apr 7, 2006 4:07 PM in response to MGW

Yes, but unless that page has changed (I confess I didn't check) it gives the run time for a computer that is awake and in use, not for a sleeping computer, which lasts much, much longer before the battery runs down. Likewise, other devices, such as printers, plugged into the battery side of the UPS will cause a faster drain than just the CPU itself, which is why they recommend not plugging them in there, but you don't always have a choice if you have a lot of stuff.

Apr 7, 2006 4:22 PM in response to brian groft

Yes - if I have my two Macs on the UPS in sleep, and these are the ONLY devices on the battery backup slots, I should get a long time before the batteries go down, and by that time power should come back (unless it is a hurricane. etc.). Thus, to me the AVR feature is much more important than the software. It seems that APC doesn't have AVR on the models I have seen. This Geek Squad unit does, and I see Belkins on line which do.

I still need to find sleep power use specs to check on the VA needed vs. the UPS unit.

Also - do people here SHUT DOWN their computer during a storm?

Apr 7, 2006 4:22 PM in response to brian groft

Brian, when you go to energy saver, you can specify that the computer should shut down when there are X number of minutes left in the battery. When you choose that, you automatically stay asleep/awake till the battery is drained to the number you choose.
I would think that this solution is the answer to your question,
Miriam

Apr 7, 2006 4:24 PM in response to brian groft

A good surge protector or UPS cannot prevent a power surge from getting through to your computer, but it can reduce the likelihood. If there is a particularly bad storm coming, I do shut down my computers and unplug them from the wall, leaving no chance that a surge will get to them.

I also unplug my computers when I am going away for even a few days, otherwise, they remain plugged in and powered on 24/7.

Apr 7, 2006 4:41 PM in response to brian groft

Yes. I always shut down and unplug my computers during a storm. I have had the plug of a surge protector get blown right out of the wall during a lightning strike before now. I'm not willing to take the risk.

Also, although I don't worry too much about my computers running out of juice if there's a power failure and I'm not around, I do wake them up and shut them down as soon as I get home if there's a power failure. You're right that it usually comes back on well before the battery runs down, but I don't want to take the chance of having an extended outage and forgetting about the computer till it's too late. Also, it takes a while to charge that battery back up again, and the computer won't run even with power if the battery is all the way down.

Apr 8, 2006 5:05 PM in response to Barbara Brundage

Barbara, if he has the cable connected, he can specify the shutdown time. With no cable, the Mac doesn't recognise the fact that he has a UPC plugged in and one can never tell when there will be a power outage.
I guess we have to agree to disagree, it's really a matter of taste, I like belts and braces, and the security of having a specified shutdown time. Actually, I have a whole-house generator, and am not on the UPS for more than 50 seconds at any time, even so, I have it programmed to shut down when the UPS battery is at 50%.
Take care,
Miriam

Apr 8, 2006 7:47 PM in response to brian groft

Tonight I found one - the Cyberpower. It has AVR AND Mac compatibility. I do believe that the AVR is the first priority, but this one should be compatible and is recognized in my preferences. Again, APC has NO consumer model with AVR that I see. There is a download for the software, and I haven't looked at the disk included yet. Too bad the Geek Squad box has to go - it was cool - almost like a Mac.

BTW: This unit is $100, and has 800 VA, which would give me well over 2 days in sleep mode. It rates an iMac G4 at 85 minutes of run time.

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