Anyone Running Two Macs with Logic?

Just wondering how much time it saves and more power it gives...I have a Dual 2G and was thinking of one of the new Intels and using OSX's built in networking, with adat out of the second Mac back to my Fireface.

I'm just trying to get a handle on how much help this would be to me, DSP wise, etc. I know I could put some of the VSL library on it, or whatever...

I'm also a little confused about whether doing it like this is different than using the LOGIC node thing, and if so, which would help me more. I tend to use a lot of plug ins, some of which aren't LOGIC's.

Thanks
Tom

G5 2G, Mac OS X (10.4.3), 2.5 Ram

Posted on Apr 8, 2006 9:27 AM

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Apr 8, 2006 12:10 PM in response to oceantracks

if i'm not mistaken, if you can use your plugins with logic, than you'll have no problem using them if you set up a node.
with a node, you connect two macs together via ethernet (intel macs work with non-intel macs). logic utilizes the processing power of both machines. it sounds pretty amazing; i've never done it.

there is a great discussion about using the mini duo as a node. those who have done it seem thoroughly impressed.

search mini node, you'll find it.

Apr 8, 2006 1:45 PM in response to oceantracks

I think your question also refers to 3rd party plug-ins, other than Logic.

I don't think there are any networking capabilities for doing this in mac OS, There is some software that can network plug-ins on PC/Windows platforms. I can only hope that an open-source/3rd party programmer creates a solution to this need.

For the time being ship as many logic plugs to a logic node to free up the host for increased 3rd party processing.

Apr 8, 2006 5:41 PM in response to oceantracks

Well, the best bet would be continue using audio + MIDI hardware for each computer. MIDI works pretty well though. I haven't found Audio over network usable enough yet. As far as what you do... well you can still use the 2nd comp as a node and you would probably just want to run the audio I/O synths more in the style of a big FX rack. If you have standalone players for your FX or samplers that is a good choice, if you need a host for everything that should work OK. Requirements from the primary computer will be pretty much limited to CPU and network so using the 2nd as a sampler will work well.

J

Apr 9, 2006 5:56 AM in response to dukas

I run three: a Quad and two DP's (2.0 & 2.5).The 2.0 runs V-Stack,and the 2.5 will be running Kore.Both machines run numerous things, like EWQLSO, K2, various synths, etc. I run hardware MIDI on the 2.0, but I'm going to probably run MIDI over LAN on the 2.5. I do not like the node: it doesn't offer as much power and flexibilty as running them as described above. I also use a PC (Gigastudio) and Receptor,both performing similar roles as the slave Macs. I still sceptical that the Quad can do it all.

Apr 9, 2006 12:49 PM in response to dukas

Yes it is easy to do with Audio MIDI setup but would require more maintenance than physical MIDI ports IMExperience. Justy create little network/bonjours. : ^)

To slave: Just use MTC and export your tempo/SMF to the 2nd com if it needs to be more than a host. If you are just using a host then sending MIDI beat clock is a good idea. I would recommend a dedicated Sync port, though MTC requires only 8% total bandwidth.

J

Apr 9, 2006 1:47 PM in response to xs4is

X: Basically, Justin has given the info on LAN MIDI.Regarding the hardware route: just think of the slave computers as hardware synths,and you're near the mark. For example, on my DP 2.0 I run a single MOTU MIDI Express,giving me 8 ports.That is then connected to one of my AMT 8's.The only problem with that is V-Stack is capable of supporting 16x16,so to take full advantage, you'd have to double the number of MIDI interfaces.So,for that one computer alone you would require 4 MIDI interfaces. That's when hardware starts to become unwieldy. And expensive. I have five AMT/Unitors and a MOTU, but really don't wish to acquire more;so I'm going to take a look at MIDI over LAN. Maybe the answer is a hybrid configuration.

Regarding getting the sound out. Each slave computer has a soundcard: in my case the excellent Hammerfalls. I take the ADATs out of those into the Quad's rig of MOTU's. The audio i/o's on each are freely configurable in both the Hammerfall's software and the V-Stack's/Kore's and all other standalone instruments. It's way, way more powerful and flexible than the node method.

Hope this helps.

Apr 9, 2006 4:27 PM in response to Justin C

No problems, Justin.Anything specific? I mean, so far, the hardware works like a dream. V-Stack crashes every time I quit it, but not destructively.Getting an answer out of Steinberg has proved impossible. NI's Kore is going to be liberational and revolutionary, I feel. I'm very interested in the LAN MIDI and will be looking into that as a practical augmentation to the hardware. Thanks.

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