5 Replies Latest reply: Sep 28, 2012 8:01 PM by David M Brewer
kahlua021997 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

I just bought a new iMac, and I see iDVD is no longer included.  I had purchased iLife '11 for my previous MacBook, so I obviously have access to install it on my new iMac.  But, I was wondering what other people use if they don't use iDVD.

 

I am currently trying out Final Cut Pro and anticipate purchasing it with Motion and Compressor (don't currently have Motion or Compressor as those aren't provided as trials).  (btw, I intend on making a side business of doing slideshow videos, so themes and nice menus are necessary for me.)  iDVD has seemed to do a decent job... a little clunky, but my workarounds have seemed to work out.  Processing/encoding seemed to take a while, but I am anxious to see how my beefier iMac does in comparison.  But, if there is something that works better out there, I am interested to find out which applications would be suggested?  I have read Compressor can do menus, but sounds a bit plain and no bells or whistles.  Chapters are also needed.... is that something Compressor adds to FCP?

 

Thanks!


iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • Brad Wright2 Level 3 Level 3 (700 points)

    You may be able to still purchase iLife DVD which contains iDVD.  There may be some copies left on Amazon.com.

  • kahlua021997 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    As I stated in my first paragraph, I already own iDVD via my disk for iLife '11.  However, I was wondering what Apple was intending on us using in order to make a DVD.  And, if there really wasn't a comparable or better solution than iDVD, I'd just install that over onto my iMac.

     

    Thanks though!

  • mishmumken Level 5 Level 5 (4,000 points)

    kahlua021997 wrote:

     

    However, I was wondering what Apple was intending on us using in order to make a DVD.

     

    Nothing. Apple has stopped any development in that direction. The only piece of software that does serious DVD (and Blu-Ray) authoring and is still being updated is Adobe Encore. There is DVD Studio Pro but it is part of Final Cut Studio which is also EOL. With some luck you might still find copies on ebay.

     

    FCPX and Compressor have very limited authoring capabilities.

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,945 points)

    Apple insists that the entire world has access to fast broadband (and are prepared to pay for the considerable bandwidth usage) and wants to distribute home movies to friends and relatives via download (iCloud, YouTube, Facebook, whatever) rather than mailing them a DVD. The fact that in reality not all users do, has so far had no effect on this policy. If you scream and shout loudly enough down the phone Apple may send you a free copy of iDVD. Stating that they would return their brand new Mac unless they received a copy of iDVD worked for some, but that is now said to have been withdrawn by Apple.

     

    Also, you can complain bitterly via Apple’s Feedback link, perhaps suggesting that Apple could have provided a choice between burning DVDs and distributing home movies by other means. You may feel that Apple should not dictate how you destribute family videos or photos to distant relatives and friends, and should not assume that every user is prepared to pay for the excessive bandwidth usage charged by ISPs for huge downloads from the App Store:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

     

    Whilst Macs with a Superdrive continue to be able to burn video DVDs, the software for so doing, iDVD, is no longer included in the iLife bundle that came with OS 10.7 Lion (which also omitted iWeb) or that comes with OS 10.8 Mountain Lion. And it is no longer included in the iLife 11 from the online Apple Store: http://www.apple.com/ilife/. Your only solution is to look on Amazon or eBay and try to get an older version that includes iDVD 7, i.e. iLife version 9 onwards. You should also do this if you plan to buy a new Mac anytime soon, as stocks of iLife that include iDVD will not be available for ever.

     

    However, the vastly more expensive FCPX can burn a DVD without iDVD or DVD Studio Pro involvement, but lack the themes etc of iDVD. Also, of course, there is Roxio Toast, which is the best software for burning anything but again does not offer the flexibility of iDVD.

     

    Apple has clearly indicated in the newest Mac mini and Retina Display MacBook Pro that it plans to get rid of optical disc drives as soon as possible across the board, providing an external USB drive as an option for users who need one.

     

    Users increasingly have fewer opportunities to use optical drives, as the bulk of third party software is now available as a digital download either directly from the vendor or through Apple's App Store. Apple also sees digital distribution as the future of music and movies, as exemplified in Apple TV, which has never included an optical drive.

     

    The company has never supported any new HD optical disc formats on its products, including Microsoft's ill fated HD-DVD or Sony's Blu-ray format, despite initially being involved in the Blu-ray standardization process. Instead, Apple has put its resources behind developing increasingly higher definition audio and video formats that it can distribute electronically through its own iTunes Store.

     

    And if you think Microsoft are any better, their new Windows 8 operating system will not play DVDs, or burn them, unless customers buy an extra upgrade, the company has announced:  http://www.gizmag.com/windows-8-no-dvd-playback/22443/

     

    In other words, computer manufacturers have declared optical media as dead, long before consumers are ready to stop using them, which is fine as long as they offered us a choice, but they won’t even do that. Flexibility and intuitive use of a computer seems to be a thing of the past

  • David M Brewer Level 6 Level 6 (9,300 points)

    You can make/burn DVDs and Blu-ray discs in Apple's Compressor 4.

     

    http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/compressor/id424390742?mt=12

    $49.99

    • Work with a choice of themed menus to encode and burn a DVD or Blu-ray disc.