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Book : ordered preview drops a page

I've put together a book in Aperture 3.2.4

I go to order it, look at the preview generated through the online store to find it has droppped a page.

In Aperture and the PDF I generated thru Aperture That page is the blank page on the inside of the cover.

Facing that page I had a single image then turn to the next page for a double spread.

The result in the store preview is that the single image faces the first half of the double spread

the second half of the spread id after the next page is turned. ?! (see attached imges)


THe theme is Modern Lines, size 8X6 the spread was made by placing the same image

on each page and up sizing x2 then matching ( I didn't see a spread in this theme)


These are the layout thumbnails in Aperture below

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These are from Aperture generated pdf through print

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THis is the store generated preview below

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Thanks


D

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 9:06 AM

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Sep 29, 2012 12:09 PM in response to D. OC1

D,

to check the assignment of pages you might consider to enable page numbers while testing the layout (set page numbers to "always" from the cogwheel below the pages browser). Then your double page spread should be numbered in the preview with the page numbers 2 and 3, if the preview is correct. The actual page numbers are tiny, you have to zoom in on the pdf to see them.


The missing page is the front flap:

My test print preview shows this: printed page numbers indicated in red:


User uploaded file


Regards

Léonie

Sep 29, 2012 12:52 PM in response to léonie

Thanks for the responce.


I tried numbering, the cupcake image is numbered '1' in all versions.

The blank page is unnumbered in Aperture and in the pdf generated from Aperture,

that page is missing in the store preview, this throws off the pagination

so that images which should face each, as shown by Aperture, other do not.


In my case the book is an 8x6 so what is missing is a blank page that is in fact

the back of the cover page, I tried to delete it or to place an image but that is not allowed.

The flap ypu refer to isn't part of the smaller books as they have no dust jacket.


any thoughts


thanks


D


PS


All the book themes seem to begin with a blank page on the left (back of the cover)

so that opening the book you see two pages the left is blank thee right can have an image

Sep 29, 2012 2:00 PM in response to D. OC1

that page is missing in the store preview, this throws off the pagination

so that images which should face each, as shown by Aperture, other do not.



That I understood,

I never have seen Aperture show the blank page on the back of the cover in any store preview, as you can see in my example. That is why I asked, if the printed page numbers in the store preview are correct.The Store preview will show the cover pages, and immediately start with page 1; and that will split spread sheet in two-page view.

Sep 29, 2012 2:23 PM in response to léonie

thanks for spending time on this


You're right, no blank page on the reverse of the cover in the store preview

and yes it does immediately start with page #1

The numbers are correct BUT it does not include the blank page


The issue is this ...if it does in fact print this way,

then it does NOT match the design created in Aperture. !!


According to Apertures page thumbnails

Cover followed by

page 0 (the blank) should face page 1

page 2 should face page 3 etc etc

but

store preview shows

cover

no blank page

page 1 faces page 2

page 3 faces page 4 etc


Does it really print this way ?



there is no point in having a book design

that does not print the layout (not just the sequence)

you have spent time deciding on


so I assume I'm missing sometthing ?


D

Sep 29, 2012 2:30 PM in response to D. OC1

does it really print this way ?

I don't dare to answer this for the small softcover books. I always had hardcover books printed, and there it is natural, that the dustjacket, and cover are printed separately - it is a different material, separated by the flyleaves - again a different kind of paper. Then the inner pages of the book are printed starting with page 1.

Sep 29, 2012 2:36 PM in response to léonie

The flyleaves you refer to would be blank

and therefore the first printed interior page you see

would be a blank left page facing a printed image right hand page, right ?


I get no blank on the preview, therefore everything following is out of sequence

with regards to what page is facing it


thanks again


D



maybe I'll give Apple a call


later

Sep 29, 2012 2:53 PM in response to léonie

I see your point but the problem is


the preview shows page #1 faceing page #2


if it prints this way it is wrong


if it does not print this way, as you say what is the point of the preview ?


just to ask if the correct images are going to be printed

and hey trust us on the pagination ?


I do appreciate your looking into this


thanks


D

Oct 1, 2012 9:05 AM in response to D. OC1

Just Updating .....


I called Apple, can't believe they hadn't come across this before


Told them the issue, which they understood having done the remote desktop thing,

They were uncertain, said they would talk to some other people,

try to replicate the issue and would then call me back.


They did call back, the issue was replicated.

They said that having asked around they were sure

that the book would NOT print they way it was presented in the store preview.


' Go ahead and order it, if it prints like the store preview, here's my email we'll sort it out '


The guy was very nice but I can't believe that Apple says

their storer preview does not show how the book will print,

just the sequence of images it will print.

If there are issues inside of a single THAT would print.


thanks


D


ps

the shipping on this $12.93

8x6 27 page / 14 leaf book

is stanard ( lowest price ) $ 5.99 (46.3 % of the book cost)

or Express ( default ) $10.99 (85 % of the book cost)


is it me or does this shiping charge way too much

Nov 26, 2012 1:52 PM in response to D. OC1

The book printed as Aperture displayed it.

It did not print as the store preview displayed it.

The store preview dropped the inside cover page

(which they do not print on) but this throws off the pagination

They should keep the page in the preview and leave it blank

as it will exist but it will be blank.


I can't believe how stupid this is.


Two Apple programs don't match


D

Book : ordered preview drops a page

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