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Louis C. Oberländer Level 1 (5 points)

I am revisiting some projects that I worked on in the last couple of months and am assembling a portfolio. When I was trying to choose my favorites I noticed in disbelief that some of my carefully editited and color graded photos looked great in the preview (as I remembered them) but once the "loading" sign disappeared turned horrible with hightlights and different colors!

 

Mind you, I am not talking about the handling of RAW files after an import. It happens months after import and post-processing has happened and was behaing beautifully. Basically 2000 photos are screwed up this way and I'd have to painfully recreate the raw files by the (still existing) proper previews/thumbnails???

 

I am thoroughly confused and it would be great if someone could give me some pointers to the dilemma (or even confirm a bug in that regard)

 

Thanks, Louis

  • Joachim Frey Level 1 (75 points)

    I think it has something to do with the RAW-conding 4.0 Version in Aperture.

     

    Not sure , what to do, now.

     

    JO

  • kmas Level 1 (0 points)

    Me too.  This is awful!

  • Aye Es Oh Level 2 (330 points)

    Aperture should not change the colors of your images unless you reprocess them. So you'd never touched these photos between the time you finished editing the photo and the time you began browsing through them for your portfolio? Also, what sort of camera do you have?

  • quemas Level 1 (0 points)

    I've got the same problem with a Canon 7D

  • quemas Level 1 (0 points)

    I just did a quick test and this problem is only happening with images taken by my Canon 7D.  Raw images taken with a Nikon D50 a few years ago are unaffected.  Also, it doesn't just do it to photos that have been edited, its any raw photo.  When you double click on a raw photo taken by a canon camera, the image becomes less contrasty and darker. 

  • Louis C. Oberländer Level 1 (5 points)

    @aye es oh

    I have a Nikon D7100 and a Canon T3i, it affects the Canon pics only so far.

     

    And nope, not touched them in the last two months.

     

    If I make a copy of the original and then stamp them with the previously working setting it almost comes back to how I post-processed them, but I still have to do final tweaking to get them exactly back to that state.

     

    This is painful, like in unacceptable! I am so bummed out.

     

    Does anyone know if I can roll back my library to a previous versions?

    Or whether Apple is aware of it? If not any leads as to where to bug report to?

  • William Lloyd Level 7 (21,040 points)

    What is the RAW process version on the affected files?  Is it V3 or V4?  Is there an "Update process" button right under the histogram?

  • Louis C. Oberländer Level 1 (5 points)

    @William

     

    Where would I be able to see which RAW process version it is (V3/V4)?

     

    I don't see an 'update process' under histogram (at the top in the "inspector", right?)

  • William Lloyd Level 7 (21,040 points)

    Create a smart album with the criteria adjustments includes RAW decode v4.0 for the whole library and that will show you all photos that have been upgraded to RAW v4.0.

  • Aye Es Oh Level 2 (330 points)

    Louis, here's where you can send feedback to Apple, though no guarantees that they'll actually contact you: http://www.apple.com/feedback/aperture.html

     

    Definitely follow William's advice, it'd be interesting to see what version of RAW decoding that Aperture is using for your Canon files.

  • Louis C. Oberländer Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi William,

     

    so yes, your advice def helped at least in tracking down which files are affected. Thanks for the pointer!

     

    I have 4900 RAW files having been processed by RAW V3.0 and 972 by RAW V4.0

     

    The ones that show the changed post-processing results are all processed by RAW v3.0.

     

    So now that we know/have verified that, what could I do?

     

    I am loosing really important material everytime I ( now) accidentally click on one of my processed files. Weeks of tweaking down the drain...

  • William Lloyd Level 7 (21,040 points)

    I'm confused as to why it is automatically reprocessing the files to RAWv4.  It shouldn't be.  None of my files were reprocessed without my manually telling Aperture to update.

     

    You may wish to use Aperture's "submit feedback" to send details to Apple on the fact that Aperture is automatically updating the RAW processing from v3 to v4, and changing the default rendering.

     

    In general I'd expect RAWv4 to be better than RAWv3, but it's different, and on pre-adjusted images if it's a default rendering it would be a problem, as you'd want to re-adjust to account for the different rendering.  I also wish there were some documentation out there on what's changed...

  • Aye Es Oh Level 2 (330 points)

    I'm wondering if you use "Highlight Priority Mode" on your Canon camera. A few people here and on Aperture Expert reported that their images were coming out too dark. Can you post a screenshot of an image that's been exhibiting this?

  • Louis C. Oberländer Level 1 (5 points)

    Nah, "Highlight Priority Mode" was switched off.

     

    Here's the examples:

     

    1. This is my finished picture. The information is still avaliable in the preview. So this is what I wanted it to look like and how I remembered it.

     

    http://cl.ly/image/3I2D0V1L2O0Q

     

    2. This is how Aperture makes it look now!!!

     

    http://cl.ly/image/3B0o0a0r051g

     

    3. This is what it looks like when I make a copy from the original and then stamp the old settings onto it.

     

    http://cl.ly/image/1g0w0u152t3i

     

    Go figure. It's just random and did I mentioned that I am deeply frustrated with an otherwise excellent program? :-)

     

    If this is bound to happen with our pictures, how can we reliably work with this? I have paying clients who come back to me months and years after and need to have access to their stock of photos.

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