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Q: imessage conversations out of order?

for some reason when imessage conversations sync between my 4S and my macbook, on the macbook everything is out of order. replies to me from days ago show as the newest, my more recent replies are somewhere in the middle of the conversation, and even then newest messages are above previous messages. then if I reply on the macbook, everything looks good until I close out of messages and go back in, replies on the macbook are then shoved randomly into an earlier part of the convo.

 

what's the deal? is there a way to sort it properly that I'm missing>

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), ios6, 4S

Posted on Oct 8, 2012 1:03 AM

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  • by stevebrown1950,

    stevebrown1950 stevebrown1950 Feb 2, 2013 10:04 AM in response to |Chris|
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    Feb 2, 2013 10:04 AM in response to |Chris|

    difficult to follow your solution - scroll up to the top?

    The individual messages within a conversation do not sort properly and i don't see anyway to fix it.

  • by stevebrown1950,

    stevebrown1950 stevebrown1950 Feb 2, 2013 10:07 AM in response to smackdat_yo
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    Feb 2, 2013 10:07 AM in response to smackdat_yo

    are you talking about the list of message on the left side of the screen?  Haven't even checked that - my big concern is the individual messages within a conversation are out of order

  • by stevebrown1950,

    stevebrown1950 stevebrown1950 Feb 2, 2013 12:00 PM in response to Amanda_Michelle
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    Feb 2, 2013 12:00 PM in response to Amanda_Michelle

    yup and it's been happening for years! apparently apple doesn't think any one cares.  best way to tell them is to use the contact link in the bottom right hand corner of apple.com

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Feb 2, 2013 1:34 PM in response to stevebrown1950
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    Feb 2, 2013 1:34 PM in response to stevebrown1950

    Hi,

     

    |Chris| is talking about a long conversation that you have in one chat where you can scroll the chat to the very "top" or start of the Chat.

     

    It seems that when the current section containing those Out of Sequence iMessages are then out of view they get re-ordered when you scroll the Chat back.

     

    Since that post other people are reporting that turning Off Messages and restarting it also seems to re-order the iMessages.  (There are no issues with AIM or Jabber IMs)

     

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    9:34 PM      Saturday; February 2, 2013


    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad

    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Feb 2, 2013 1:41 PM in response to stevebrown1950
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    Feb 2, 2013 1:41 PM in response to stevebrown1950

    HI,

     

    He is stating about closing the whole App down (Quit) and then restarting the app as I just posted to your oldest reply to this Thread.

     

    As Messages is not a year old yet it have not been "happening for years".  It is a rolling year from when it was released not an arbitrary counting of "two years" as we passed the end on one of them.

     

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    9:36 PM      Saturday; February 2, 2013


    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad

    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

  • by Protector,

    Protector Protector Feb 17, 2013 1:36 AM in response to nomenclature
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    Feb 17, 2013 1:36 AM in response to nomenclature

    It is not an issue on our iOS devices because we never turn them off then..?

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Feb 17, 2013 12:55 PM in response to Protector
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    Feb 17, 2013 12:55 PM in response to Protector

    HI,

     

    The Mac Version can sort incoming messages or chats by Time or Manually  (See View Menu > Sort Conversations).

    The iOS version does not have this.  The Newest chat which is also an iMessage in most cases  is always at the top.

     

    In the Mac version this appears to be only a sort for the conversations themselves (the order in which they appear in the left hand pane of the Main Messages window).

    It does NOT appear to be a way to sort the iMessages or IMs within an iMessages Chat or a Buddy List chat.

     

    The Mac version being Off and then turned On to sync conversations that had been held on an iPhone or iPad (or were in fact continuing) did seem to be the ones with the issue as the sync process and ongoing conversations seem to have different rules or priorities from the iMessages server causing new message to be out of place.

     

    People do report that once the sync process has "caught up" Messages on the Mac can be restarted and the individual iMessages appear in the "right" order.

    (I have not evidence of this due to my lack on Off line conversations as far as my Mac versions goes).

     

    3Sigcopy2.png
    8:55 PM      Sunday; February 17, 2013


    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad

    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

  • by Protector,

    Protector Protector Feb 17, 2013 1:27 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Feb 17, 2013 1:27 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    I've tried restarting the Mac version myself without any such luck. I was just thinking if the opposite occurs as well - if I turn my phone off and chat away on my mac, will the iOS version experience the same issue? I've only heard of it on the Mac version, but maybe that's because we never turn our precious iPhones off...!

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Feb 17, 2013 1:31 PM in response to Protector
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    Feb 17, 2013 1:31 PM in response to Protector

    HI,

     

    I have never tried it that way round either.

     

     

    3Sigcopy2.png
    9:31 PM      Sunday; February 17, 2013


    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad

    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

  • by Eric D.,

    Eric D. Eric D. Mar 17, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Eric D.
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    Mac OS X
    Mar 17, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Eric D.

    Just a quick update, I installed 10.8.3 and in the release notes, it said this bug had been fixed.  It hasn't.  Today, I had an iMessage conversation with someone on my iPhone.  Later, I turned on my MacBook Pro and the conversation went 10:36am, 10:04am, 10:45am.  I am really puzzled by this one.  If the time stamps were wrong, I guess I could understand the problem but they aren't.  Why is it so hard just to sort the messages by time stamp?

     

    I will say the things seem less out of order since the update but they still aren't correct.

     

    Come on Apple...let's get this one fixed!

  • by superstilk,

    superstilk superstilk Mar 17, 2013 3:39 PM in response to Eric D.
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    Mar 17, 2013 3:39 PM in response to Eric D.

    Im having the same problem.  I installed os x 10.8.3....even did a clean install from a flash drive.  I had a couple of conversations on my iphone and came home, opened up my rMBP 13" and messages were out of order.  For as long as this update was being tested you would think this would easily resolved.

  • by mattd25,

    mattd25 mattd25 Mar 17, 2013 3:48 PM in response to superstilk
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    Mar 17, 2013 3:48 PM in response to superstilk

    Same issue here since 10.8.3 its actually gotten worse it'll randomly right before your eyes go from a good order to scrambled without even pressing buttons.

  • by coolvalentine,

    coolvalentine coolvalentine Mar 17, 2013 8:37 PM in response to mattd25
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    Mar 17, 2013 8:37 PM in response to mattd25

    I have the same issue. Have noticed since getting a new MBP in Dec w/OS 10.8. This is a pretty obvious bug. I'm going to post something via the feedback link provided.

  • by Stage Age,

    Stage Age Stage Age Mar 20, 2013 4:25 PM in response to nomenclature
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    Mar 20, 2013 4:25 PM in response to nomenclature

    I'm having similar issues though they don't seem to be as severe. Just now the latest two imessages in a chat were out of order on my iMac and iPhone. I exited out as suggested and restarted on the iMac and it fixed the problem. Closed the app and went back in on my iphone and this solved it as well. However, I usually have the problem where imessages are just missing on the iMac, whilst the iPhone is fine. I'll do my bit and post on the feedback link too.

  • by Stage Age,

    Stage Age Stage Age Mar 20, 2013 4:34 PM in response to Stage Age
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    Mar 20, 2013 4:34 PM in response to Stage Age

    Just tried the feedback link, but I never used iChat or mobile me and it's asking for .Mac or AIM name? And the iChat version only goes up to Snow Leopard. If there not updating the feedback section to iMessage, are they really going to pay attention to anything we submit through this?

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