Why can't I use my iCloud email address as my Apple ID

When I want to enter my iCloud email address (like foo@icloud.com) as my Apple ID, the system at appleid.apple.com tells me that I can't use an email address with a domain owned by Apple as my Apple ID which I find odd enough. I tried to create a new Apple ID through appleid.apple.com just to see what happens and even then it says that you cannot use an email address with an Apple domain.


It becomes even more odd when you consider that, if I'm not wrong, you can very well create a new Apple ID and use a new @icloud.com email address if you do it with an iPhone.


I can use my iCloud address as the primary email address of my Apple ID account so it's not a huge problem, but it still annoys me a little bit that the name of my Apple ID has to continue being my obsolete Gmail address.


Does anyone have more information on this?

Posted on Oct 15, 2012 8:45 AM

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Posted on Jun 19, 2013 11:42 AM

If you had an existing (non-apple) apple id before icloud, apple gave people the ability to have an icloud (email) account attached to it. By signing into an icloud enabled device, and checking off mail, you are given the option to create an @icloud address (formerly an @me.com one), that is associated with that apple id. This allowed people to continue to use the apple id that had all their purchases, and have an @icloud address. You can sign into any apple services using this address and pretty much ignore the originating non-apple address if you want. If that originating address is no longer valid... well, that's not really apples fault. You can maintain it, or create a new non-apple address to change it to (only reason you'd really need to do this is for the sake of rescue emails).


If you don't have an apple id, and wanted to use icloud, you can create an icloud apple id by signing into an icloud enabled device. This is an apple id in its own right, and therefore cannot be used to change the address of an existing non-apple id.


This is essentially how it works, and is pretty easy to understand.


Now, what you guys are wanting is a new feature, which DOES make sense. I'm with you guys on this. You want to be able to remove the non-apple address from your accounts, and just use the @icloud address permanently, without a non-apple address. After all, new icloud signups can do this...


Anyone wanting this new feature should request it at apple.com/feedback.

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Sep 14, 2017 1:49 PM in response to reitermoritz

This is the biggest joke I have ever seen in technology. I can change my Apple ID to any other email address in the world except for my @icloud.com email address. You can't make this stuff up. However, if I were to create a brand new Apple ID I could make it an @icloud.com email address. Sounds like Apple has a really hard time with SMTP addresses. The won't even let me delete my @.me email address as well. Apple has slowly become one of the most incompetent companies in technology.


Drew

Oct 19, 2017 6:17 PM in response to fanboyfanboy

Even from a software perspective, this is not a difficult feature to implement and makes no sense why it hasn't been added yet if Apple really wants to get everyone locked into their ecosystem.


Then why won't Google do it? Microsoft?


Neither if them allow a change to the core identity either. They each will allow an alias to provide another "nickname".


None of the major players allow it. Apple is not an outlier.

Oct 19, 2017 9:57 PM in response to fanboyfanboy

fanboyfanboy wrote:


Agreed. Even from a software perspective, this is not a difficult feature to implement and makes no sense why it hasn't been added yet if Apple really wants to get everyone locked into their ecosystem.

Since you are so certain that it isn't difficult to change the software (I guess you have taken into account the entire iCloud infrastructure, correct?), then why don't you send the solution to Apple via the Feedback link: Apple - Feedback


Cheers,


GB

Oct 21, 2017 5:54 AM in response to fanboyfanboy

fanboyfanboy wrote:


I submitted feedback and a bug report on this long ago actually. No, I haven’t looked at the iCloud infrastructure because Apple has not released the source code. However, if I can use my my @iCloud.com email - which is an alias, - as a valid login to any Apple services, the relations between database tables already exist.


Indeed.


The notion that it should take near magic for Apple to make this possible is ridiculous.


I’m sure it won’t be as easy as flicking on a switch; probably nothing is at the titanic scales that Apple operates at. Also pretty sure that finding a workable solution is not beyond the collective wit of Apple’s engineers if doing so was made a high enough priority by the powers that be.

May 23, 2017 9:48 AM in response to Israel Brewster

Israel Brewster wrote:


LACAllen wrote:


However, I would appreciate if you could explain or provide a reference/link to the how of this : "So, one can switch the email address associated with their AppleID from a valid @gmail.com .... to an @icloud.com email ONE TIME."


Change your Apple ID - Apple Support

User uploaded file


Once you've changed from @gmail to @icloud, you can't change again. One time.

No, NOT One time. Not at all. The issue isn't that you can't change from one @icloud to another. We all get and understand that. The issue is that you can't change from @gmail TO @icloud - NOT EVEN ONE TIME. Yes, there is a change button. Yes, I can change from one gmail to another gmail, or to something different, but I can't set the @icloud account as primary - NOT EVEN ONCE. As gail said: "If you try to edit a non-Apple domain email address to an iCloud email address, it just goes out into the ether. It will not change it."

This is correct.


You cannot change an Apple ID's primary email address to an iCloud Email address not even once. You can change a non-Apple domain email address to another non-Apple domain email address as many times as you want.


An iCloud Email address is either an Apple ID in and of itself already (if it was created on its own from the Mail app on macOS or from an iOS device) and by extension cannot be used with a different Apple ID, or is simply an email alias that belongs to another non-Apple domain Apple ID (if it was created after creating the Apple ID).


Once again, You absolutely cannot change an Apple ID to use an icloud email at all.


LACAllen wrote:


Once you've changed from @gmail to @icloud, you can't change again. One time.

This is incorrect. You cannot change it to icloud, not even once.

Oct 20, 2012 12:47 PM in response to reitermoritz

I'm having same problem. It's not such a big deal but I'm in the same boat my one and only AppleID is currently rocking an antiquated gmail address, and it's just stupid...


I just bought a new MBP and decided to start using icloud properly and set up an @icloud.com email in order to properly consolidate all Apple's products and services under my name and make sure cloud syncing works with my phone etc. etc.

But ironically, the one thing governing all of their services (my Apple ID) is still designated a Googlemail accnt (their veritable rival) because we can't use Apple domain email addresses??! I don't understand. It just seems ludicrous. Can anyone explain why this is the case?

Jul 5, 2013 2:54 AM in response to reitermoritz

Hi I am in the same boat, I originally used my gmail account from my old phone previous email provider, I have now deleted the gmail account and no longer use it.


Now I am forced to continue to use an obsolete email address to log into my Apple account which in my opinion is completely unnecessary.


It only makes sense to sign into icloud.com with your icloud email address and use it as the Apple ID, its absolutely stupid that Apple will not allow you to use their own domain, where is the logic behind that? its just simply frustrating.

Oct 1, 2017 4:12 AM in response to Imp68

All very will except I have a Microsoft email as my Apple ID and when anyone who uses iCloud calendars sends me an invitation, Apple hijacks it and send it to my Apple account which not only do I not use, but I haven't even got a calendar just the family calendar. So anyone using iCloud calendar sending me a calendar invitation will actually be sending it to my kids!


What a joke. No wonder I changed from Apple to Microsoft for all my cloud facilities.

Oct 19, 2017 9:43 AM in response to gail from maine

The entire point is that from a UXD perspective, without question, it should be possible to simply change an Apple ID's name/primary email from a third party email address (such as Gmail) to the iCloud email address that is already associated with/an alias for that Apple ID.


It's beyond perplexing that after all these years it still isn't possible to do that.

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