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Q: Why can't I use my iCloud email address as my Apple ID

When I want to enter my iCloud email address (like foo@icloud.com) as my Apple ID, the system at appleid.apple.com tells me that I can't use an email address with a domain owned by Apple as my Apple ID which I find odd enough. I tried to create a new Apple ID through appleid.apple.com just to see what happens and even then it says that you cannot use an email address with an Apple domain.

 

It becomes even more odd when you consider that, if I'm not wrong, you can very well create a new Apple ID and use a new @icloud.com email address if you do it with an iPhone.

 

I can use my iCloud address as the primary email address of my Apple ID account so it's not a huge problem, but it still annoys me a little bit that the name of my Apple ID has to continue being my obsolete Gmail address.

 

Does anyone have more information on this?

Posted on Oct 15, 2012 8:48 AM

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  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 7, 2014 3:20 AM in response to Imp68
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    Oct 7, 2014 3:20 AM in response to Imp68

    no offense but there are a lot of people here who disagree with you

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 7, 2014 3:27 AM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 7, 2014 3:27 AM in response to bluefox34

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    @imp68: I wish I could down vote you for being so arrogant. Who in their right mind forces you to need to stay with a competing email service in order to have @icloud.com service? Google doesn't. Yahoo doesn't. Microsoft doesn't. Should I go on and on....?

    Try to understand that your Appleid is not an email address, it is a login string (a user ID if you like). If you close the account that it is an email address for (which is not iCloud) nothing will change. You will still be able to login usingo it. But you should provide a new alternate email address (if you were using it as such)

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 7, 2014 3:28 AM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 7, 2014 3:28 AM in response to bluefox34

    bluefox34 wrote:

     

    no offense but there are a lot of people here who disagree with you

    Everything in Imp68's post (the one that you replied to) is accurate, you may not like it but it is true. Which part do you disagree with?

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 7, 2014 4:58 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 7, 2014 4:58 AM in response to Csound1

    So the issue is that apple requires you to maintain an email account elsewhere for their Apple ID account and email service. Most people aren't interested in maintaining two separate email accounts. Furthermore, it weakens the security because now you have two places to get hacked instead of one. Apple is alone in doing it this way. With the recent nude celebrity fiasco, you would think that apple would want to tighten up their security wherever they could but they don't seem interested.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 7, 2014 5:03 AM in response to bluefox34
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    Oct 7, 2014 5:03 AM in response to bluefox34

    You do not have to 'maintain' 2 email accounts, once you have used an email address as an Apple ID you can close the email account, it will make no difference.

     

    I won't bother to comment on the rest.

  • by bluefox34,

    bluefox34 bluefox34 Oct 7, 2014 6:56 PM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 7, 2014 6:56 PM in response to Csound1

    I don't think you know what you're talking about.

     

    Apple specifically recommends against using an abandoned email address.

    Source: Security and your Apple ID

  • by Ski22,

    Ski22 Ski22 Oct 8, 2014 8:17 PM in response to reitermoritz
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    Oct 8, 2014 8:17 PM in response to reitermoritz

    I find it very ridiculous that I can't use my icloud email address as my primary email address for Apple correspondence. Instead I have to maintain an unused email address (gmail), and have it forward emails to my icloud account.  I have changed all my email address with businesses and friends/family to my iCloud email address, yet Apple refuses to let me use iCloud as a primary email correspondence with them. Why can't they fix this limitation on their side ?

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Oct 8, 2014 8:25 PM in response to Ski22
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    Oct 8, 2014 8:25 PM in response to Ski22

    Are you using Apple Mail? If so, just tell your friends to send everything to your @iCloud.com address - you will see it in your Inbox. You don't have to change your Apple ID for this to work.

     

    GB

  • by Ski22,

    Ski22 Ski22 Oct 8, 2014 9:07 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Oct 8, 2014 9:07 PM in response to gail from maine

    I have everyone sending to my iCloud email address. The issue is that Apple refuses to allow you to setup an iCloud email address for a primary corespondence with Apple. The primary email address that is associated with your Apple ID cannot be a iCloud email address. That means any correspondence I have with Apple, including purchases, have to go to a different, non-Apple (and unused) email adresss. Very ridiculous!

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Oct 8, 2014 9:08 PM in response to Ski22
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    Oct 8, 2014 9:08 PM in response to Ski22

    I see what you are saying. Don't know if this helps at all, but if I go to iCloud.com, and sign on with my iCloud.com ID, I can see all of the mail that goes to my Primary email address there - even Apple correspondence. My primary email address is an @me.com address, so don't know if the experience would be the same for you. But I do agree that there should be a way to indicate that you want all correspondence to go to your @iCloud.com address (or any other Alternate email address) if you choose to have that done. Not sure why it doesn't allow that....

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

  • by lnewman.au,

    lnewman.au lnewman.au Oct 8, 2014 11:40 PM in response to Ski22
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    Oct 8, 2014 11:40 PM in response to Ski22

    Re the general comment that "I can't use my icloud email address as my primary email address".

     

    It's not my intention to unnecessarily bump my earlier comment.  It was either: a) ignored which is fine if b) it didn't address the issue.

     

    But I found a way to make your Apple ID the same as your iCloud email address.  As I said before, it may be too radical for some, but it worked.


    First, I had created CDs of my iTunes purchases while logged under my old account.


    Then I reset my iPhone and as a step in the "set up as a new phone" created a new iCloud address and apple ID using the new iCloud address. 


    I then created a new iTunes account using the new iCloud addressed apple ID. 


    Now my email, Apple ID and iTunes account all use the iCloud address.


  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 1:49 AM in response to Ski22
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    Oct 9, 2014 1:49 AM in response to Ski22

    The email address you use as your Apple ID is simply a login string, it doesn't matter whether it works as an email address or not (after you open the account) if you want to use the iCloud address as your 'Primary' address nothing stops you except your belief that you can't.

     

    Now tell me why you think that you can't do what thousands have done.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 2:02 AM in response to gail from maine
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    Oct 9, 2014 2:02 AM in response to gail from maine

    But I do agree that there should be a way to indicate that you want all correspondence to go to your @iCloud.com address (or any other Alternate email address) if you choose to have that done. Not sure why it doesn't allow that....

    So, you have an iCloud account with a non Apple address as the ID. Lets say it is a Gmail account.

     

    How would telling Apple that you want your emails to go to iCloud instead of Gmail actually work? Can Apple redirect emails from all the people who use other providers? will Google allow another company access to their emal system. I very much doubt it. Google can redirect Gmail, Apple can't.

     

    This is a storm in a teacup, the OP already has an iCloud address, and an alternate (in case the iCloud one is off line for any reason). The choice of which to use is a personal one.

  • by Ski22,

    Ski22 Ski22 Oct 9, 2014 4:15 AM in response to Csound1
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    Oct 9, 2014 4:15 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    The email address you use as your Apple ID is simply a login string, it doesn't matter whether it works as an email address or not (after you open the account) if you want to use the iCloud address as your 'Primary' address nothing stops you except your belief that you can't.

     

    Now tell me why you think that you can't do what thousands have done.

    Sorry, but you are not understanding the issue.  I am talking about the primary email address that Apple uses to send you emails about your purchases from the Apple store or any other correspondence you have with Apple.  That email address Apple uses for you can only be changed at "https://appleid.apple.com/ ".  On the website, it says you cannot change you Apple ID (which is also used as your primary email address for Apple correspondence) to an iCloud email address.  It has to be a 3rd party email address. And if you read through this thread, nobody else has been able to change it to a icloud email address either.  There are numerous discussions of this issue on the Internet. This is just silly that you can't use an iCloud email address for your primary email address for correspondence with Apple !!!!  Apple needs to fix this silly issue!!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 9, 2014 4:22 AM in response to Ski22
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    Oct 9, 2014 4:22 AM in response to Ski22

    That address is also your recovery address, in case of the iCloud address failing instructions will be sent to the alternate, not much use if it is the same address really.

     

    'Primary' is a figment of your imagination, whichever address you choose to use is the 'Primary' (unless receiving emails from Apple is your 'Primary' use)

     

    But, as you clearly feel different, tell Apple: Apple Feedback

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